The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show, Episode 0

Welcome to Episode 0 of The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show, a podcast for the Farcaster middle class.

1. BArt-Head for President https://drakula.app/post/8affea5a-61a7-4733-8d60-80b00df98797

2. BArt-Head poops on the chat https://drakula.app/post/84cbf6c3-5adb-4942-9be7-552bf202e85a

3. BeavChris is afraid https://drakula.app/post/fc5987bd-b678-427b-8380-ba26dc3f26d3

4. BeavChris channeling poop wisdom https://drakula.app/post/314156d7-ecc4-42e5-9f89-4f1f7a9c54f9

5. A Poop buidler enters the chat https://drakula.app/post/12b503e8-d244-4368-89ca-14dea6ed9672

Collect NFT

BeavChris

 Okay, now we are live on not only Unlonely, but on a YouTube stream that is technically hidden. So to

BArt-Head

 The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show.

BeavChris

Welcome. Welcome. Yeah, thanks for asking me about how I'm feeling. I am feeling excited about our conversation today.

BArt-Head

Are you feeling moisturized, in your lane?

BeavChris

Nourished

BArt-Head

 Flourishing?

BeavChris

Yes, especially with the touch up my appearance on Max.

Yeah I feel like, this is actually your first time being on camera. And how do you feel about being not an anon, not an angry goose pecking everybody?

BArt-Head

 Yeah, the goose is a recent thing for War Caster, because I loved that there was a meme that the account Goose, who's Nicky Romero, he created, and I loved it so much.

And then another artist, @0mbre, made a glitch frame that would take your PFP and make it move. And I thought, Oh, that's even more perfect for the goose. So I like this. I can't wait for Warcaster to begin.

BeavChris

Oh, okay. Me too. And again, as usual, as your representative, a new to web3 person, I'm completely lost.

So yeah, let me hear a little bit more about yourself. Can you do your elevator intro?

BArt-Head

Yeah, so hello, I'm BArt-Head. I'm also @artlu on Farcaster. I've been there for a little over a year and I try to say things that I would be happy to say in real life. I try to say that online and I'm happy to have this podcast.

It seems like everybody is starting a podcast. Everybody is doing things. So let's jump in and see what it's like.

BeavChris

  Yeah, we're like the meme of the three boys sitting around a quick couch.

BArt-Head

 So that one I saw, I thought it was a joke. And then, they put their names on it.

Six Martin and Woj. I was like, okay, that's a funny joke. And then they're like, no, it's real .

BeavChris

It's actually, this is really

BArt-Head

it's actually really good. I'm really happy to hear them talking and so yeah, why not? If three boys can do it, the two of us can do it.

BeavChris

Yeah.

BArt-Head

 And so who are you, Christin?

BeavChris

 So I am your regular person who was invited to Farcaster, I think, back in last year. So I am by trade a biotech marketer. I was a neuroscientist researching multiple sclerosis back in the day. And then I was also a chaplain. So that is someone who's a spiritual care provider specializing in the Buddhist tradition.

However, lately I've decided that I'm a standup comedian. This is another iteration of that latest burst of creative energy. And yeah, and then we had this idea because you and I are often giggling at the things that are happening on Farcaster. And having these like private telegram chats and then we're starting to be brave and actually sharing our point of view.

BArt-Head

 Right, that's one of the great things where anybody can say anything at any point in time. I do embrace that. I think that's that's a beautiful part of being alive now. Anybody can say anything. And of course, nobody has to listen to us. Let's explore that. I'm very happy to explore this with you.

Now you mentioned you have started to do stand up and it turns out you did a set over the weekend. What do you rate your performance?

BeavChris

Thanks.

BArt-Head

How do you feel about it?

BeavChris

I'm doing this thing where I don't rate my performance .  

BArt-Head

You are or you're not?

BeavChris

I'm not. Okay.  

BArt-Head

Okay. So how do you feel after you've, after you did your second one?

BeavChris

I feel like a sense of accomplishment. I think that was a relatively hard thing that I did. I Was. Super, super shy kid. And I still am, like stuttering over this podcast. So I think this is something that's a really good, still challenging thing to do. And definitely last night, as I struggled through making NFT out of the performance that was also something really new.

So I'm really touched by how everyone supported the NFT and made really nice comments about the standup.

BArt-Head

Yeah. It's exciting. You get  that. You get to try something, and then you get people to, to cheer you on, and you had, how many people were in the audience? It looked like there were, like, more than we have here.

BeavChris

Yes, for sure.   It  was an open mic, and as almost everyone is performing too, so we're just enjoying each other's performances.

BArt-Head

 Yeah, I watched it. I thought it was 10 out of 10 for your second time up. It was well constructed, delivered.

BeavChris

Oh, thank you so much.

BArt-Head

You got laughs. That's a big thing.

BeavChris

Thank you. I thought about adding a laugh track to my clip to edit it and stuff. But my wife said that was like a little bit  unethical.

BArt-Head

Okay. So she's the ethical one. You're the,

BeavChris

Oh, for  sure. For sure.

BArt-Head

Okay. All right.

BeavChris

Yeah. How about you? What have you been up to?

BArt-Head

  Oh yesterday was the school musical day. And my son is 10 years old. So I went and he had a solo that he did not tell us about. And so we were just watching and he did a solo. He hit it. It was great. I'm really proud.

BeavChris

Really? Apple  doesn't fall far from the tree. Does he know that you're doing this?

BArt-Head

No. Cause my family does not know that I'm doing this, which is okay. And eventually they will. Cause I share this on Farcaster. I share a lot of stuff with my son. He's 10 years old. I think it's important for him to know about the future and the future may or may not look exactly like what we have now, but it's important to learn in the same way that I think it's important for me to be spending time learning about where things might be going.

At a point where you can contribute, there's not so many people that you get lost in the noise and at a point where maybe you can change the direction and in mild ways, none of us have infinite agency, but some of us can push things in different directions. And it's really empowering to see other creators or founders trying to push things in the way that aligns with their values.

BeavChris

 Yeah, I think you're definitely demonstrating that by jumping into this creator bandwagon.

Actually I'm going to do something technical right now. Cause I realized that I've been streaming this entire screen, including all the side things. And I'm like, no, I only want to see our faces, but let me tweak this on OBS really quick.

BArt-Head

You guys are really seeing this live.

BeavChris

I'm going to do this like super the  janky way.

I'm just gonna somehow drag this, but it won't let me make this any bigger. So this is definitely a hot fix.

BArt-Head

  Look, I love hot fixes. I think it's really the way to go, especially as you're figuring it out live.

BeavChris

Yeah definitely.

I need to ask Grace later or someone who has done a Streamyard live stream, how do you or chat, do you know how to stream from Streamyard and also on Unlonely and not show the other stuff? I think I need to like draw a frame somehow on OBS, but that will might interrupt the show a little too much.

So I'll do that for next time.  

BArt-Head

We'll start here and go up only.

BeavChris

Yeah, so moving on to our hot topics and favorite things on Farcaster. I know you have a ton of opinion. Oh, and whenever you share your opinion, I'm always like, is he like for or against? Or is he making it ambiguous on purpose? And he's like hiding in bad takes? What is this bullshit?

BArt-Head

Yeah, so I don't think bad takes is for hiding.

I think bad takes is for the opposite of hiding, saying exactly what you mean. That's how I'm approaching it. I think, everyone can try different things and put on different personas, but almost everything I say, I try to say what I think, but there's and sometimes I'll clarify.

It's a strong opinion, strongly held or a strong opinion, weakly held. I think bad-takes is for strong opinions, not weak opinions. And it's also for the ones that engage or invite engagement, as opposed to hot takes, which I think are there, it seems like they're there for people to get applause.

I almost never get applause on bad takes, and that seems to be fine. So I generally say exactly. What I think, but I'm sometimes open to changing my mind. But the thing that's most on my mind, which actually scares me a lot is that channels have been around for long enough to have developed into their kind of patterns, their natural patterns.

And the next phase is to iterate. And DWR dropped a hint. That it would be great if there was a huge penalty for spammy behavior, such as, and he gave an example. And the account that actually did that commented like five times on that cast. And said, hey, I'm just starting out.

I'm just trying things. And it's a bad experience if you smash somebody. For a first offense, which, that's a fair statement. I actually don't think this is their first offense and I don't think they're innocent. But I think the point is correct that you should not smash people for trying things.

We are getting new channel moderation tools. And I think some people have gotten previews of it and different things. I have not seen anything. We are getting new channel moderation tools, and I am quite against the way that things have been going, which is that the channel mod has both the responsibility and the power to control the conversation.

I think natural conversations work better when people can say what they think, when they're not overly careful like they are on LinkedIn. But people have pointed out that if you are overlyfree, as you are on X, the conversations devolve very quickly. So there has to be a middle ground. It seems to me that in Warpcast, the middle ground always leans into the power dynamic rather than the technology, and I would like to see it lean more towards self sovereignty and self determination than into a, an existing power dynamic.

To sum up. We're getting channel moderation tools soon. I'm scared that they will exacerbate the existing power dynamic. And I think the network right now is at a stage where we should be breaking down the power dynamic in order to allow more voices to come in. But there are many people who are concerned that there are too many voices already.

So this is a, I think this is a tipping point and we'll see what happens. Now you have your own channel and you've had your own channel for a while. Are you excited to see new channel moderation tools?

BeavChris

Oh for sure. And I actually, I hit the little marker button because I thought what you said was super interesting and we should clip that.

I think especially because that's the reason why we became friends, right? It's because we're where it's solidly in the not super big account, but also have been around long enough to have organically known more people and then, you are alerting to me to the fact that there is a full social dynamic going on, but I don't even see because there are people from developing countries who are on other clients and there are like, there's this like hidden layer to Farcaster and like a lot of this stems from, almost like first comer privilege, right?

It's if you were here earlier, then you know more. And there's like certain norms that you know, we are like trying to uphold to make a good environment for everyone. But then like you said, if we like, banhammer everybody who's new and who's clueless, then that's actually really not nice at all.

BArt-Head

And also doesn't really allow the platform to grow beyond like the, niche and like the core community of people. Yeah, look,

 you and I are more sensitive to certain things than others because of The way we look at our family histories coming to the United States from other places, and we can get more into it, but to me, almost every second, I'm reminded that some people are new, and when they come in as newcomers, they can be welcomed or they can be attacked.

Just like in every country in the world, newcomers can be welcomed or they can be attacked. Or they can be siloed off into their own communities, or they can be integrated. And I happened to grow up in the United States with this ideal of a melting pot. And I happened to come of age, as the internet was coming of age to promise that the American melting pot could expand to the entire world.

And it hasn't happened. And many of the people of my generation that I've met on Farcaster, which is different from, I think your generation or some of the people in the chat, we remember how promising Web 0 and Web 1 was. And how it got diverted and I am in web3 because it's a chance.

It's like a, it's a do over chance. And as we go screaming down the same path, we think, oh, that's not why we're here. So that's my view on channel moderation and also where I think you and I particularly have a chance to speak because we're not afraid to speak. We're able to speak and we can be seen as speaking from an understandable perspective.

I think that's a benefit that we have, that most people in tech know Asian Americans and have an idea of what our lived experience has been. And so somewhat value it. I do feel valued amongst the Web 3 community amongst the tech community amongst the American community, and so we can speak on behalf of maybe Africans or South Americans or Southeast Asians who are in South Asia or Southeast Asia.

That are not as willing to speak.  

BeavChris

Speak for yourself, because I'm still afraid. But, I think that's something that

BArt-Head

  Is there one thing that you're most afraid of?

BeavChris

 Oh great question. I would say, probably, just like everyone else I feel like I'm afraid of hurting someone else's feelings.

It's always like that, right? Where I'm, not as equipped in a way to make, even post really good bad takes, because I'm like, oh, I'm so afraid that, someone might take it to mean something personally or something, right? So that is actually a very very typical Asian thing of I'm, Constantly concerned about other people's feelings and making sure that, they are feeling okay But then that is completely like almost against like social media ethos of you know You in order to get any attention at all, you have to offend to be really spiky to the point of just on the edge of potentially offending someone.

So I think we can explore all these dynamics for sure. And one thing that we want to talk about here is also the movements that have come up as a result of attempts to make the community a nicer place for everyone, right? So there is Slash poop. I don't know what the correct term to say is.

And then there's another one that you are mentioning in the show notes. Can you talk about these two communities right now?

BArt-Head

So  there's two brand new things that I've seen on Farcaster. I'm not involved, so I am only observing. And then it's permissionless. So you can jump in and say your piece or participate and try things out.

So one of them is called, Poop, that's the poop emoji, and I think the idea is that potty training is something that everybody goes through as a human being, and it's natural to poop, and we have to learn to poop in the right places. And this is a play on shitposting, which is a very natural social media activity, but then shitposting can tear down.

And it can silence and it can do whatever. So poop is a way, it's an attempt to normalize pooping in a certain way that is that acknowledges that we live in a society. And I think I started pooping on poop. Yeah, it made me uncomfortable by association. Yes, because the people behind poop are very well liked and very well connected.

I have interacted with Graham and Kevin for a long time in really positive ways. And so I felt, I felt comfortable poking them and Erica is relatively new, but she's very well connected and very thoughtful and very talented as well. So I I do hesitate to tear down, but I did start pooping on it because I thought, From the perspective of someone who's totally new, if you get pooped on, that is a very demeaning experience to, to survive.

It's it's and I don't want to false equivalencies, but it's like someone coming over to a new place, being themselves, and then having the existing group respond and say, Hey, don't be yourself. Be more like us. Guess what? We're going to show you how to be like us.

And you may, we will welcome you if you choose to conform. But if you don't, you're going to get even more poop. We're going to humiliate, we're going to threaten to humiliate you until you conform. And to be that kind of extreme. What I wanted to highlight that that extreme, and I know it made you feel very uncomfortable.

I think it's it's real that discomfort and uncomfort. And I do acknowledge that I would not have responded if I hadn't had many interactions with Graham and Kevin before and even some mild positive interactions with Erica maybe they don't know that so I do want to say I want to express where I'm coming from very clearly I think a newcomer's experience being pooped on Will probably send most people back to lurking, or just totally away.

Like why did I even come here? Oh, it's not worth it.

Let me just quickly move to something else, which is an even smaller experiment. So 0mbre, who is a frame developer and artist he started this thing called the Castaway Frame Experiment. And he has a frame which algorithmically identifies casts which have not had any interaction yet.

And it presents them to people browsing through the frame and says, Hey, like Here's one. Do you want to interact with it? And you can click through and interact with it. And some people have taken this and and pooped, or said funny things to people. Said snarky and funny things. And some people have gone through and said, look, okay, hello, welcome.

And I'm trying it out, and I'm also curious to play with the idea of algorithmically presenting random casts, which are not in my feed. Right by definition, they've had no interaction yet. So what kind of casts are those? What kind of people? What kind of accounts are doing things with no interactions?

I'm playing with that and just exploring that. So that's it's called the Castaway frame experiment. It's quite hard to find because there are castaways, which is a different thing. But I thought that was interesting to play with.

BeavChris

For sure. And then I really admire everyone's like experimentation.

And I think that's the beauty of these experiments, right? We have intended outcomes. And no matter how well intentioned something is, there's always unintended outcomes. And we want to bring them to life. And so this topic has brought a little bit of conversation in the chat. BArt-Head, you want to respond or comment?

So that we're not neglecting our audience.

BArt-Head

I  wanted to encourage them to chat amongst themselves. And I want to continue to neglect them because we do have some other items on our agenda even more important than anything that anyone in the chat has to say. Now can I go first or will you go first, Christin?

BeavChris

Oh, you go first.

BArt-Head

Okay. So we are doing this live stream to, to experiment with advertising. Okay. So I have some ad reads.

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Over to you, Chris. BeavChris.

BeavChris

 I was like, this ad read got really Eric Andre for a moment there.

This is my first time hearing it, so that's why I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah so definitely we are looking for sponsors.  

BArt-Head

I will do just as good a job with your ad read as I did for Christin.

BeavChris

Yes.

And we're hoping to reach a global audience on Farcaster with our pod. So definitely if you have any cool projects, we would love to feature it here. So we are at the 28 minute mark. I'm wondering if we want to save some of our fun points for the next episode. What do you want?

BArt-Head

Yeah, this is good learning. I think I should talk less. And

BeavChris

Maybe don't poop on our like, nice live stream audience. Okay.

BArt-Head

 Okay. That's a good note to take. If you agree, please comment in the live stream. I will be reading and taking your notes in good spirit.

BeavChris

Oh, is this your first time being this is your first time being like face showing on the internet, right?

BArt-Head

I think so. Yeah, I shared some three point shooting, and it's on chain. So I put a video and I hit some three pointers. And then I think Ray F he said he would send me 100, 000 D gen. If I shared a clip of me falling off a mountain while skiing. And so I shared that, but no faces before.

BeavChris

Yeah. And if you're comfortable sharing my understanding is that you're like jumping into this face showing creator world because you have some projects that are might be beneficial for creators coming up.

BArt-Head

Yeah.

The week before Frames Friday, I thought it would be good for there to be a Farcaster native ad network for Farcaster native creators, Farcaster native businesses like my own, Farchiver, and platforms that are displaying things on Farcaster.

And the native part comes with layers of opt ins and opt outs. It would be very useful to have a centralized place for users to register their opt ins and opt outs, and then for creators and platforms and sponsors to choose to respect those opt ins and opt outs. And so part of trying this is to create different platforms and understand exactly how much opt in and opt out, you do have to respect.

I guess respecting the chat is a very important thing, which I had not realized before doing this.

BeavChris

 And also, sorry, you couldn't opt out of our ad read. Clearly there's a lot of mechanisms that we need to really figure out. Oh ooh, and also, ooh, Erica's in the chat.

"I was informed that there were some true criticism happening. Happy to clarify whatever you need and dispel any rumors."

Oh my gosh, I hope we didn't cause rumors.

BArt-Head

Thank you, Erica, for joining. I'm sure you came for the optimism 4844 announcement. Thank you. I will clarify that I don't know anything about what's happening, except for reading through the frames very closely, and then jumping to conclusions.

And my leap, and I will clarify this, my leap is that for a new user who doesn't know what's happening, clarify that. And gets pooped on by some really big accounts or well connected influential accounts will have a. Negative experience with our platform. I do believe that is not any of the people's intent, but I'm concerned with things like mob rule and Internet physics taking emoji casts like the top hats, like ham, like poop, which is very memetic and running with it.

And so I want to raise concerns about. New users getting turned off. One thing I tried to express as well was that, um, if you smash people, the people who remain are the ones who are really sociopathic and, then you end up with a community of really tough skinned internet warriors, which is not what has emerged from Farcaster so far.

And if we start using tough tactics on new users that were not used on us. That's going to create a different community than the one that's emerged. Erica is welcome to, to share with all of our listeners in the chat and we will escalate and elevate those comments.

Yeah so there is definitely I would agree with the last comment there that There's a different energy coming from a poop movement than the one that I have ascribed to it. I am concerned, though, and I'll repeat that things that are really fun, sending poop at other people, will get taken by decentralized communities.

And that the leadership that's shown, Within the community gets emulated. I'll get on my high horse again, right now, which is that DWR has a hammer. He can ban people. He can nerf accounts, meaning they don't show up at all, or he can ban them. And he's given this hammer to different channel mods.

And we have all watched different channel mods react differently to the challenges of. Moderating a decentralized permissionless space, some of them have been very I would characterize that the more sensitive of them are probably not going to take on the channel mod role in the way that it's set up now, which requires them to have conflict.

And to have negative moderation, that is, removing offending casts. The less sensitive, and the more thoughtful, have tried to engage with the people that they're about to to ban or mute. And have found that to be useful at the beginning, but at scale. At some point you say, look, my job, my life is not about educating people.

And so at the extreme end, the more popular channels, the ones who want to continue to be moderators, they say, look, I'm too busy. There's thousands of these. I'm just going to ban. I'm like, I'm not going to tell you anymore. And what ends up happening is there's an imbalanced power dynamic where those people take the lead of the community, which is Dan saying, DWR saying, look I get a million DMs.

I'm just not going to answer any of them anymore. I'm basically closed to you, the users. And so another large channel mod will say, Look, my channel is super popular. I get tons of spam. Who is going to expect me to engage with all of you? Sorry. Bye bye. And so that's that's my soapbox. Sorry.  

BeavChris

And I feel ironically, there's a power imbalance here because we're the ones on screen and Erica is really busy typing in the chat. So I'm going to read what she says. So she says that

"if there's only two things you can do, number one, express or number two, don't do anything. We lose a lot of signal value by having only a positive metric and nothing below zero.

Why can't we express we dislike something? Does Having only I like this or I won't engage give enough depth to serve a personalized algorithm?"

So I think that's all so so Erica I totally agree with your point and I think that is one of the tricky things I'm seeing with the poop movement is that it's almost like the immigrant Experience where like you are told like don't do these things Social norms, but you're never given a place of practice or a place to learn.

And this has nothing to do with even the poop movement it's the mechanisms that are available to us right now. like, for ban hammer and I really love how, your team is so creative to come up with a new mechanism that is softer. And what we're saying is that, Oh, it's almost like we need an even softer stool.

Order to on ramp people onto social norms. So it's we admire the movement. We're just pointing out how there's another layer that we wish is available. But I think there's a tech thing that can be done here. Almost have Discord, right? That you can have people go into these tests intro servers to practice norms before you put into the other channels.

Yes. Through these bots and such.

BArt-Head

I'd like it on the record that Christin would prefer a softer stool to rain down on.

BeavChris

Yes, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Erica, like some kind of test net or something, or else it's just too hard for most people to learn.

BArt-Head

I would like to suggest, this is just a,

Just something that I know exists. There is, and this was Christin and I's first conversation. There is a testnet or something like a testnet. It is called the FarQuest Cast L2. So back when accounts were relatively expensive and relatively hard to get, the FarQuest team, that's Nico and JC built FarQuest Cast L2.

Which is free to the entire world and people get the entire Farcaster experience without ever crossing from the L2 to the L1. And so there are many people, slash airdrop farmers who went to Farquest Cast to get the Farcaster experience. And Nico and JC did, I thought, a great job of trying to clarify, hey, you're not.

Part of Farcaster, but you get to get the Farcaster experience so you can learn how to so you can learn if paying the $7 a year is worthwhile for you to go. That's one benefit of making it free. And so that's a place, which I've always kept in the back of my mind as a useful place to try things because you try things there.

They don't interact with the feed on the L1, but they are in the feed on the L2. And that's a place to try things. There's nothing that actually beats testing in Prod, however. Because the dynamics in the FarQuest feed are totally different from the dynamics in the main feed. So there's nothing that does beat testing in prod.

I don't have anything against people trying things and we are permissionless. I just see my role of pointing out When my family came to the U. S., we were told as kids, don't speak Chinese to each other. Even with other Chinese people. And that's that's a triggering thing. Because now that I'm a grown adult, I like walking through the streets of New York City, speaking in Chinese to the air.

And no one really cares. But it's great.

BeavChris

Yeah. There's certainly a lot of like dynamics that seem familiar. And again, like it's very hard because even bringing this whole topic up, I, again, feeling very uncomfortable viscerally because I don't wanna say that, anyone did anything or and these dynamics are like, equivalencies are almost unintentional.

It's just that we see through our lived experience that it's very subtle and there are these like layers going on That unfortunately the people who are experiencing it are socialized to not speak out So we're trying to be the gentler voice for those who may be voiceless on L2 so I think we should, do you want to wrap up for now, or what do you want to do?

BArt-Head

Yeah I'm quite happy. We've touched on a lot of the things that we wanted to touch on. I'm really excited that people joined our chat. Very thankful to you guys for joining us. We do have a group chat for the BeavChris and BArt-Head Show. It's on Farcaster. We're happy to send invites.

We plan to do various things. Thanks. And this was episode zero. Thank you very much for joining us at stage zero of our journey.

BeavChris

Yes, thank you so much. And I understand that it's almost like I opened up new cans of worms and I'm like, oh, we're going to be ending the channel right now. But I think we're, experimenting with formats.

And now I'm thinking, oh I feel like actually, again, the obvious dynamic here is, I think we should have people who, like Erica be on the chat so that we can have maybe a proper three way conversation. So that, this can be a more fruitful conversation, or definitely open to everyone's suggestions here as well as to how we can improve the format and make this more fun for all of you.

And obviously we're doing the BeavChris and BArt-Head thing because we want to be like, like bad takes, like not say very serious thing in a not very serious way.

BArt-Head

Wait, but Christin, you said you were going to return your wig after,  to get your money back  after using it.

BeavChris

Yes. I might not even use it now because I really like this paper one.

BArt-Head

Oh.   I'm not wearing a wig everyone,  

BeavChris

yeah, this is his all natural hair.

BArt-Head 

I might get a haircut at some point.

BeavChris

Thank you all

BArt-Head 

for joining.

BeavChris 

Thank you. Alright.