Welcome to Interregnum Episode 1 of The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show, a podcast for the Farcaster middle class.
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Summary
Join Christin and BArt-Head in their “private conversation zone” for an intimate and insightful discussion on the challenges of online personas and authenticity. They dive into how cultural backgrounds shape online experiences, and share personal stories about their interactions on social media.
BArt-Head humorously recounts his attempt to stir controversy on Farcaster, only to be met with kindness, sparking a deeper conversation on the dynamics of social media communities. Christin reflects on her transition from a Web 2 meditation coach to a Web 3 content creator, emphasizing the importance of practical contributions.
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Transcript
BeavChris
Alright, we are live, according to StreamYard. You're entering a private conversation zone between me and Art, who has chosen to wear the BArt-Head wig today, whereas I was like, no, I'm gonna be authentic, I'm not gonna wear the wig. So what is up with that?
BArt-Head
I don't know, we joke that it's a wig. Have you ever seen me without the hair?
BeavChris
Actually only after, right after the stream goes offline, usually you immediately take it off and I immediately take off mine because it's so hot.
BArt-Head
I don't think I've ever been on a, online, with my hair.
BeavChris
Oh, yeah true.
BArt-Head
I'm always wearing a hat, and
BeavChris
Are you one of those like baseball cap dads?
BArt-Head
Sure, yeah. No, I've had surprising hair in the past. And I might again in the future.
BeavChris
Okay. All right, please grow this out naturally and dye it and we can sell the wig and recoup our cost of production.
BArt-Head
How often do you change your hair?
BeavChris
As an Asian woman with the same uncle hairstylist for the past God knows how many years, not often because it's every time I go there, I'm like, I tell him in Cantonese, can you just da wo yu yen, which means can you just restore it back to its original state? And they're like, because he was like, Oh, so wow, there's not much you can do. It's not if you don't want to be edgy and you don't want your hair to curl up or whatever, that's this thing where they are really obsessed with not having it be a certain length because they think it will curl.
This really is the only hairstyle I can have. It's like, how much bangs do you want? And how many layers do you want? That's it.
BArt-Head
And is it always a man?
BeavChris
Oh I feel like I always go to the same person. And yes, like he's a dude who like grew up in like actual like Guangzhou, in China.
And yeah does hair, owns his own hair salon. And, yeah, and actually recently he went back for Continuing Education, which I did not realize was a thing for hairstylists. So he was like, it's all fancy,
BArt-Head
They have to be licensed in California, right?
BeavChris
But he was like, no, I wanted to learn more like new edge, new techniques that's coming out of China where, you know they cut different hairstyles and they are using these like dyeing techniques that are less damaging to hair.
And he was like, Yeah, I want to improve. So he went there, but he was like, it's not like fancy, like you're imagining because I was imagining, Shanghai and you have, fancy spaceships or whatever. But then he was like, No, like these schools are held in the middle of nowhere, China. So he's I'm stuck a rural bum like this, these like places with no food, no good food, like you asking me what good food I am like nothing because like I'm stuck in the studio all day.
And there's just like lines and lines of people waiting to get free haircuts. It's like dental schools here, where all the villages
BArt-Head
Oh, it's a free haircut school, okay.
BeavChris
Yeah, it's like they just practice on these villagers who are like, Oh, we're getting such a great deal.
BArt-Head
Yes, absolutely. This guy's from America. Let's get a haircut from
BeavChris
Exactly. It's a sifu from all the way in where I live in California. And yeah, and then he and I was like, Oh, you must take a lot of time and care for each person to practice, right? Because you don't want to screw it up. And he was like, yeah, for the first person.
Whatever. And I was like, Okay, I'm glad you got your practicing out on these people, and not on me. Oh, man.
How about you? Do you go to the same barber?
BArt-Head
I have, yeah, it used to be always a woman. And then we found a Japanese guy who used to live in Singapore and he speaks a little tiny bit of Chinese, like just enough to be annoying in the Chinese. And he speaks almost as little English. He's Japanese.
But he's really good. And then last week I went. And he wasn't there. He was another Japanese man. I was like I don't want to come back. That's rude, right? Because the guy was friendly. And I had him cut my hair. I was like, it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't feel right. And by the way, next time I go back, this guy, he will immediately notice that it wasn't his cut.
BeavChris
Oh yeah, yeah. You cheated.
BArt-Head
No, he's a real master. And he's like, when was your last haircut? [Ed. note: problematic accent! ]
BeavChris
Yep. Fascinating.
BArt-Head
Finding an Asian haircut, someone who can do Asian in America, it's hard. Growing up, we would go to the local barber shops. And I think half of my friends, their moms cut their hair, and the other half had that haircut. And only a few would travel to Chinatown. And or spend more than $5 on a haircut. Everyone else is either their mom or some white person or some black person had cut it.
BeavChris
Yeah. Do you think that really shaped your experience and how you perceive things happening on Farcaster? So the other day cause I'm an Asian who actually grew up in Asia. So I have like variations are different from what, from yours.
And I feel like y'all are the people who get offended by the New York Times article about Chinese chicken salad, and I'm just like, it's a very tasty salad.
BArt-Head
What is Chinese chicken salad? Come on.
BeavChris
So and then I was also like one day like just looking at all your replies and I felt really sad for you (you don't know about this). Like someone I think someone asked what AAPI was like, oh, what are some like must watch Chinese movies and then you like listed all of them and I was like, there's no Stephen Chow in here this list sucks, but then the person was like I've never seen any of these except for Ip Man, and I was like, oh, you must have been so disappointed!
BArt-Head
I was on the floor. I felt so, I listed the classic classics of both Hong Kong cinema and Asian American cinema. And like Bruce Lee, Jet Li, all the Lees. It's, she said, I haven't seen any of them. I felt so much like a grandpa. Or what is, what do you call it? The those crazy people at film school in New York, you run into the NYU film school crowd.
BeavChris
Yeah, yeah. The indie film watching types.
BArt-Head
Super obscure. And or go off on Citizen Kane, which was like 1923. And you're like, Whoa. And I was like, talking about Bruce Lee, it was like the seventies.
BeavChris
Yeah, I was sad on your behalf, but I feel like it really shaped your online experience and how you perceive what is happening and how I perceive what is happening. Yeah, we have some folks joining us in the chat so we can get into that.
BArt-Head
Hello, jump in the chat.
BeavChris
Yeah in trying to be authentic, I'm not wearing the BeavChris wig, and I'm just being myself, and and, Art, actually, Art at first said he wasn't going to wear the wig, and then he rescinded, and, I personally, I think I know why, but I don't want to say it.
BArt-Head
I'll tell you two reasons, and you can judge if these are right. One is a, offline you said, Oh, I think your personality with the wig is, or online is more you than the one that's not online. And then you were the opposite way around. I don't know if it was specifically about the wig or just being online, like your personality online versus your personality in real life, which one is more authentic and you had made some comments about how we were flipped.
The other one was I think it was from either @grace or someone else, and definitely from Shoni being like, What is going on stream? Like, why are these people like this? And I thought,
BeavChris
Why are they like this?
BArt-Head
I don't know, that's great. When I was a teenager, I had crazy hair. And I liked, sorry, when I, at first I had very bland, anonymous hair. I thought that was the only way to be, was to be anonymous and blend in. And then I went through a while of having crazy hair and I enjoyed that way more. Then I got a job in Trad Fi. Nope.
BeavChris
Oh, those were your other depressing casts. I remember now. So on the same day of you recognizing that people are not watching these classic Chinese movies, you were also explaining your experiences being in Trad-Fi as an Asian man and how, like, all these Asian Americans who are like, Harvard and like top of the class going to TradFi realizing they're second class citizens.
And I was like, Oh, what a depressing day.
BArt-Head
So my point was not even about Asian Americans, but it was about Asians.
BeavChris
Oh yeah.
BArt-Head
They were the future of their nation. Us Asian Americans, we were never the future of our nation. We were like, hey we're going to raise our communities.
But these people are like, they come from India with a billion people to the most selective IITs, IIMs. And they come over here, it's Oh, okay, Apu, can you can you fix my spreadsheet?
BeavChris
Yeah.
BArt-Head
And then there's these Chinese guys who went to Beijing University and Tsinghua University. And again, objectively, they would run circles around anyone from Harvard, MIT, Cambridge, Polytechnique, like objectively, in all of their technical skills.
BeavChris
Yeah.
BArt-Head
And you're like, Hey that regression that you ran, you did it wrong. The line's going, the line's going down and not up. Oh, can you make that P-value better?
BeavChris
Is this a, this is a live reenactment of what you did to these people? Tsk tsk tsk.
BArt-Head
I remember I was really young and like I was coming from America and I was in London and there's this old English trader. And he said, let me just tell you like for your own good. Let me tell you, just make a chart that goes from the bottom left to the top right, and then you can write a bunch of words around it, but show me that chart before you do anything.
Just make a chart that goes bottom left, top right. And this was way before crypto, way before number go up. It's just like, all I need to see is a chart that goes from the bottom left to the bottom to the top. That's your job, dude. And then and then he's ah, actually it'd be okay, if you showed another, like a different chart and it went from the top left to the bottom right that would be good too. Okay. Got it.
BeavChris
Oh, geez. Speaking of charts, so what trouble have you gotten to this week? Related to number go up and down. Actually, this can just be anything on Farcaster.
BArt-Head
Yeah, I did want to share one of my appreciations. This is like channel /appreciation.
So I tried really hard to get into a fight. And I don't know if it was this week or it was before. I tried really hard. Like I was like for days I was mustering all my best online arena slams, like training, practicing, testing out in my own mind okay, this is going to be like the biggest and hardest, most viral slam ever.
And I went after @wake, who is a, he's a big leading community member in $DEGEN, and this is about the Koreans that got banned, because I really don't like, I don't like bans. I don't, I understand them, but I think that a small group of people making a ban, and picking winners and losers is really atrocious and it's not what we're here in crypto for.
So I wrote a thing about how I admire General LeMay. He was this famous person in U. S. military history. And he basically won World War II for us, and then he won all the subsequent wars for us. He was like the god of military air power.
BeavChris
Okay.
BArt-Head
And in the 70s, Stanley Kubrick took him and turned him into Dr. Strangelove. In the satirical movie, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, which was an anti war movie. It was satire. One of the greatest pieces of cinema ever made. But he took this, like, really amazing military technician who used power in its absolute pure raw form and produced Pax Americana, like this one man.
He turned him into this joke and caricature of a madman who just wanted to drop bombs on people. And he also, just wanted to drop bombs on people, he said, the bombs work. They save lives in the long term, and they save lives in the short term, especially American lives. They're horrible for the enemy.
BeavChris
So you're making this very disturbing analogy between actual people being bombed to Korean farmers being banned for $degen farming.
BArt-Head
Yes! And I said, Wake, you are, Wake is Dr. Strangelove. And I was like, look, I'm like I'm the same person in history as Muhammad Ali standing up against the war. And, and @wake responded in a very Farcaster way. He complimented me. It was like wow, you are.
BeavChris
You got whammed in the face with the feedback sandwich!
BArt-Head
No, not even a feedback sandwich. It was like he, what's it called when you embrace someone with love like, Oh, you've got a crazy toddler going wild and you just like
BeavChris
To me I'm imagining more like an MMA fight where you thought it was a boxing match and then you got body slammed instead with a big hug.
BArt-Head
It was the opposite. It was very, a mature kind of reaction to someone throwing shit at you. It was like, wow, you're a great writer. I love reading you, dude. Seriously. I'm not joking.
BeavChris
Okay.
BArt-Head
And then I was like, yeah, that's good. Okay. Wow. That makes me feel great. And then he said, I have nothing to do with it. Absolutely nothing. But thanks for fanning the flames. And I was like, Oh fuck. I like, I directed all of this energy in, I focused it like a laser on the wrong place. And now I'm spent. I'm totally spent. I realized, he was like not MMA, but boxing Floyd Mayweather Jr., who's the greatest defensive boxer of all time.
No one can ever land a hit on him, even though they're like world class boxers trained in the highest form of science, to throw punches and they can never land it on him. So it's wow, this is such a great Farcaster response, which is opposite from Twitter toxicity, where you throw something, you throw some shit. And they throw some shit back, and then you throw some more, and whoever has the most shit wins. Because on Farcaster, it's
BeavChris
You know what's really interesting? You take it as very positive. Whereas I, as lately, this sort of thing makes me go, because just being at FarCon and all.
BArt-Head
Oh, you're talking about the echo chamber.
BeavChris
No, it's the fact that everyone is really politically savvy.
BArt-Head
Okay, so that you are in a room full of really high operators.
BeavChris
Exactly. And actually that makes me feel like a little uncomfortable.
BArt-Head
Okay, so it's like you've been playing poker but not realizing that you're the fish.
BeavChris
Yes, if that's the analogy for the mark in poker.
BArt-Head
Yeah. I'm not the mark, I'm not the, oh shit, I'm the mark.
BeavChris
No, but I understand, right? You don't get to be, like, at this level of status without playing the game, right? But I think, like
BArt-Head
It's not just status, it's wealth. Holy crap, it's wealth. It's like super
BeavChris
Whatever it is, it's like the effect, right? Yeah, there's these people who are, like, they are just really good at saying things. But actually they’re playing like, 4d chess level games that I don't understand. And then that makes me as a simple, one generation from farming land kind of person very uncomfortable.
Whereas I feel like you're basking in it. So it's very funny, this episode was supposed to be the opposite dynamic, but now like, wait a minute.
BArt-Head
Yeah, I am. The part I'm basking in is that I felt very strongly that I needed to be heard and I was heard and I was made to feel valued with this, I don't know whether you call it feedback sandwich or like some way of deflecting.
BeavChris
Yeah, deflecting.
BArt-Head
Yeah and like my fury got spent and I could say, all right, now what?
So maybe I'm going to go build something. Maybe I'm going to go try to add some value. Maybe I'm going to focus, my rage on making something that's actually useful as opposed to getting cred, getting likes for for having some really obscure but clever comments that I make.
BeavChris
And this is the pressure or the hierarchy of this ecosystem. It's like people who are builders will authentically get the most cred.
BArt-Head
Hmm, so you're saying, your observation was that on Farcaster the builders are the kings.
BeavChris
Yes, right.
BArt-Head
They get all the attention. The next layer are the artists who are putting out stuff, they are making money, they are supporting each other because an artist sees someone else making art and they say, oh, good job, great job.
And right below, or way below that, are the content creators, the talking heads, the empty vessels who are on people's streams. And nobody, like, there's so few of us, that we may support each other, but there's 10 of us or maybe 50. Yeah. I think there's 50, but out of those 50, the ones who have made it, they're not watching an Unlonely stream with, how many viewers do we have?
We're with five viewers, right? The big, the Bankless guys Ryan Sean Adams and David Hoffman. They're not watching, they're on Farcaster, they're creators. They're not devs, they're not artists, but they're not lifting us up.
BeavChris
And I think there's also the culture of like content creators that are more crypto related.
Again, like this is like no shade, like it's because it's more practical, right? If you want to make money, then you want to know what's up in terms of the culture, so you can do your speculative activities that will make you more money.
BArt-Head
So maybe some people who have AlfaFrens rooms, some people who have Hypersubs that are alpha chats, people who have FriendTech tokens, some Drakula content which is about how to use different memecoin identifiers, how to trade things like that, which is different from us.
We're here talking about our feelings. We're here
BeavChris
Exactly. Feelings, $FEELINGS. Tokens.
BArt-Head
We need a Dollar sign token, $FEELINGS, and it's yeah, and then the solutions that are pitched to us, like from Brian and Grace's, let's do a 30 second token, let's play hot potato.
BeavChris
Exactly. ISpeakNerd said, hey, art, we are qDAU, art creator union wen, and also dollar sign $FEELINGS, minted.
Yeah, this is actually like karma because the number of times I've annoyed him with $TABLETOP wen, it's like way too high. It's just like karma.
BArt-Head
We're right after you dude (laugh). Right after we
BeavChris
You're like the hopeful prodigy child. ISpeakNerd with the /tabletop business.
BArt-Head
Lead the way to the Promiseland!
This phrase Promiseland has been in my head for a couple of days, @bias came up with it. And I just, I love the idea, which is a little bit like Vitalik's phrase of about realistic optimism. Vitalik was talking about Farcaster being like, if we don't, if we don't grow Farcaster, it becomes just a science experiment.
Which is a kind of a pessimistic thing, and it just, it kind of justifies ends, any kind of means necessary to grow Farcaster. To attract bots, to hype the DAU. And Vitalik responded, you don't need to be a pessimist. You don't need to be an optimist. You could be a realistic optimist, which is that you try, and you try while sticking to your values.
And if you fail, you've learned something in the attempt. You've learned something about your values, and what is right. You've learned something new. You've learned that this is either possible or not possible. But if you compromise your values in the pursuit of a number going higher, then you've learned nothing about your values. You've actually discarded them. And that's not optimism, that's cynical.
BeavChris
I really, I do admire the guy. I feel like he is living his values and producing a lot of value in the process. And this is not because I also played World of Warcraft. Yes.
BArt-Head
Yeah, he played World of Warcraft and it
BeavChris
And I'm like, yes, I understand. If you got banned from a WoW server, you would be sad. And it's good you didn't turn into a super villain.
BeavChris
No, but you and he are exactly the same.
BeavChris
Yes. Me and Vitalik exactly the same. He speaks better Mandarin than me, I feel like.
BeavChris
And by the way, he just put out an EIP. So I don't know, Christin, you haven't put out an EIP in a while.
BeavChris
Yeah, I haven't. I need to first, number one, learn what they are. Actually Carter from Zora showed me he actually has a tattoo of EIP numbers, and I was like, dang, these EIP things seem really important. I should learn what they are.
BArt-Head
There's a graveyard of failed EIPs.
BeavChris
Oh, I did not know that.
BArt-Head
Only some actually actually make it into the protocol. Yeah, to me, that's very risky to get a tattoo.
BeavChris
Ah, so what's the reason why we're doing this pop up stream anyway? We want to dive into our various neuroses.
BArt-Head
I want to talk to you, but I only want to talk to you for half an hour. [Ed. note: shall we tell him?]
BeavChris
Oh, okay. Okay.
BArt-Head
Another thing. Yeah, I want to, the real reason, which is in our Google Doc, I put it in there. Why is no one talking about the flippening? So when we started
BeavChris
No! No, I don't
BArt-Head
It was to get ourselves more followers and I was way ahead of Christin. I was way ahead. I was like yeah, whatever, whatever, let's get us more followers. And we were, we've been talking this whole time about how the auto-follows algo, It gives people with more, and it gives people with less, more, but less. So you can never catch up because of the way the autofollowers work. And I guess last week you flippened me. You got more f ollowers and and your immediate reaction was, Oh, is it because you're too controversial? Are you being suppressed. And my immediate reaction was some cope yeah, but all of your followers are bots.
BeavChris
Yeah, I know. I was like, there was the instant cope!
BArt-Head
It's totally fine. Everything is fine.
BeavChris
And then like I went into my typical
BArt-Head
My friend Geoff told me we have too many bots. That's totally fine if someone else has more than me. Cause they're not real. So we've, we flipped it. And I think that's a, that's actually quite one takeaway is I speak like 75 percent of the time and you speak 25 percent of the time and getting more followers requires speaking less. It's totally fine.
BeavChris
Okay, so let me interrupt you. I, that almost sent me into my usual creator sad spiral, actually, right?
BArt-Head
Yes and then, success issue.
BeavChris
Yes. First of all again, I want to emphasize that, at least very lucky to be on auto-follow, but the number of people who actually, who I have conversations with has never changed this entire time. So I do believe that the follower metric is not indicative of anything at all in a way, and now we have all these like other just possibly more problematic scoring. But they, they are better. I think OpenRank is a better reflection of what's actually happening of all the ones I've seen.
BArt-Head
I used OpenRank. I think it's awful, at least the version that it's in now.
BeavChris
Oh.
BArt-Head
Supercast has incorporated OpenRank into a feed and I looked at, I don't care about any of this shit.
BeavChris
Oh, the For You? The For You.
BArt-Head
Yeah, I realize I, there is no better algo than my own algo. My own algo is better than everybody else's, any algo that anyone else can come up with. I am going to double down on The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show lite client and build out my algorithm.
BeavChris
Oh yeah, we have a client now, people. Which popped up the other day and I was like, what the heck is this? It's like a really I was like, at this current form, I think I wouldn't use my own client. Because literally, it's just like your cast and my cast and a read only thing, right?
BArt-Head
Yeah. So in about 10 minutes
BeavChris
our viewers are complaining that they never received an invite to our very exclusive client.
BArt-Head
Anybody can have their own client in about 10 minutes. It took me 40 minutes cause I'm a really slow dev.
Like I, I like to read every single thing and know what's happening. But if I was just to follow the instructions, it would take 10 minutes. Anybody can have their own client, permissionlessly. It anchors to a.
Oh, thanks. Thanks, ISpeakNerd. I feel better.
BArt-Head
Oh you used Airstack or Neynar? You used,
BArt-Head
Neither.
BeavChris
Pinata, right?
BArt-Head
Yes, I used Pinata. There's maybe four different data providers for devs that are in, over, definitely overlapping and competing in similar space. So it was like Neynar, Pinata, FarQuest. Nobody's talking about FarQuest. Don't sleep on FarQuest. And Airstack, which is new and rising with a bullet.
Neynar is, to me, Neynar is the gold standard. Pinata is the the one that aligns the most with my decentralized values, way more than Neynar, and Pinata's a bigger company. So it like, I like the little guy. I like Neynar. and I like Rish and Manan. [Ed. note: @pixel - am I a joke to you? ]
BeavChris
I didn't realize that Neynar is a little company. I always thought that Neynar was the big company, huh?
BArt-Head
Yeah. Look, if you do your research, you'll find they just raised a round. It's yeah. It's the size that it is. It's, and it's, their product is amazing. It is really targeted in a very smart way and it's architected in ways that like when everything else was crapping out, they handled the scale without a hitch.
There's lots of really impressive things that they do. FarQuest also is really impressive with their ability to handle large scale. And for this one, I used Pinata. It's, they just released a tutorial and you just basically copy, you clone their GitHub. And you change the code in I think it was eight places.
And you have your own client. It didn't work for me. And so I asked them and they explained to me exactly what was going on and why it didn't work and how to fix it. And I was like, and so that's a little privileged. The devs at Pinata will respond to my casts immediately.
BeavChris
But how did you earn this privilege?
BArt-Head
I tried before, and I did things that didn't annoy them.
BeavChris
It's a shocker, considering. Sponsor us, Pinata, we you use your tools!
BArt-Head
We've used the tools and we haven't annoyed you enough.
BeavChris
Exactly. Okay wait. By going back to my death spiral so here's an example, right? Where I'm like, always feeling like I, I want to be a builder, right? I always admire you every time you make something even though it's really stupid, like the fart thing.
I'm like, aw I, you made something like people can use. And I feel like that is like fundamentally that's what's tricky about being a content type creator is I feel like I really appreciate all of your time spending your time in the chat, But then I feel oh this little moment of like Art talking about how to build things like that's really useful and I feel like that's where i'm starting to be like, oh I need to like orient towards my value of being useful in some way. Okay and what has happened is that in the past, in my Web 2 creator world the Christin that existed before Farcaster, I was one of those huge, not huge as in numbers, but huge as in my mind space, meditation coachy type people, and I
Although I like, I'm hosting /spirituality. I don't push my own stuff on there ever because I want it to be a neutral space where anyone can talk about their own path.
BArt-Head
Yep. Makes sense.
BeavChris
And here I was, so I met up with EulerLagrange like the other day and I noticed myself, like, he actually, he kept trying to bring the topic back to meditation and I kept trying to push it back away, and I told him it's because in the dynamic of like sharing, spiritual teachings, etc. what happens is that I, there is a hierarchy, right? It's, I know some things, and I want to sincerely share these teachings. But then, if I were to reveal my own crazy life or whatever, then that's what makes that web2 model of systems of sharing fall apart and you can, you notice that like the creators who are all like Virtual whatever, they never like, they're very careful.
They imply that their lives are pretty in order, because that's what you're selling. The idea that your life is in perfect order and you just need to like notice one thing, and that's the paywall of the content. And I felt myself going like that's not who that I number one, doesn't really work here on Farcaster.
I think and number two, I want to be friends with everyone. I don't want to like be that person. So I feel like that's where I'm like, so here I've had a lot of fun with you doing our shows and like making more like peer to peer content and all of that. But I'm also thinking about how like builders are still, most valued here because they're building something practical. And the people I admire the most, even from the web2 world are the indie hacker types who make useful tools, like SAASes and all of that.
BArt-Head
I feel you're over indexing on the FarCon crowd and I think you said to me, Hey, why aren't you going? And it was like 90-10 that I wouldn't go to FarCon because I have a life outside of Farcaster.
BeavChris
Just insulting everybody.
BArt-Head
Yes, yes. That's the way. That's the way to get more followers.
BeavChris
Yes.
BArt-Head
I have family loves me and needs me and values my time with them way more than some strangers on the internet. And, and also I felt if I was in that crowd, maybe I would get the wrong signals because like you said, people go there to make connections. People go there to get something out of having invested that pretty, pretty significant amount of time, money, resources, effort, preparation.
Like all the builder teams, the big ones that had a huge presence there. They have this FarCon on their calendar for months. To make sure thei products were ready, right? Cause here's a chance to get attention.
Yeah, I think you're over indexing on the values that were expressed at Farcon. The self selected population that was there, because we do have almost 100 followers on our brand account, we have, almost, like that's bigger than my family.
More like, nearly 100 people and all of them are real. They're not bots, very quiet people, but we have, yeah, we have like at least an, almost a hundred people that were not at FarCon, I think. Out of our followers, what, 10 were at?
BeavChris
We're well, did some of you go to the Far(Away)Con.
BArt-Head
I'm yeah, maybe 15.
BeavChris
Yeah.
BArt-Head
I thought there's way more to Farcaster than the OG community.
And whenever I see the OG community like closing up, I get really uncomfortable and anxious, and I think it's problematic, although it might be a choice for the builders to be kings right now. The builder community on Farcaster is the competitive advantage, if you compare Farcaster to Lens.
I think the Lens devrels are way better because there are no devrels in Farcaster, for Farcaster. But the devs are not better in Lens, in my opinion, like they're they're a different quality.
BeavChris
Yeah, I feel like I wasn't so at the Farhack side of things, but I feel like if I was a dev, I would feel really happy with the conference.
BArt-Head
Yup, and it makes sense. And I think that the team has tried, they noticed that this was a unique strength of the ecosystem and they've tried to make the most out of it. By the way, they didn't, I don't think they started this way. I think Dan and Varun started thinking that it would be a social network of Silicon Valley big shots.
Like Balaji, like Chris Dixon, all their friends. Their personal friends and their close, their circle and they invited them all to Farcaster and some of them say, like VGR, I think he's pretty early and he's really big and connected and they, some stayed, but most of them didn't and he was like, Oh who do I have, some devs, right?
BeavChris
Yeah. Though yes, VGR is still my, one of my favorites.
BArt-Head
Yes, right? I came here, I was like, oh, VGR's here, holy crap.
BeavChris
Yeah, exactly. Actually, one of the anchor content oriented people.
BArt-Head
But, he's so big compared to me writing my little Paragraph.
BeavChris
He also was really early. I feel and he stuck to it really early. Yes. And I think that's it, right? That's the other thing I'm thinking about is in my feed, I'm starting to see other talking heads have emerged and they're talking about being really early.
BArt-Head
You wanna name names?
BeavChris
I don't, I feel bad. I don't remember their names. Do you? They're so big.
BArt-Head
You don't remember. So yes, of course people talk about being early.
BeavChris
Yes, of course.
Now there's some stuff in the chat about DevRel, and What is DevRel? Is it developer relationship? What is it?
BArt-Head
Developer relations. And for some reason the emoji is an avocado [Ed. note: advocate = 🥑]
BeavChris
Oh.
BArt-Head
Yeah so DevRels are, like, they're programmers who are very good communicators and very friendly and accessible with extreme patience and empathy so that a community such as a blockchain that needs developers to come and build on it has a touch point who is helpful and adding value.
One thing I love about using the pinata universe of code is that they write tutorials that allow you to just like copy, paste and get at least 50 percent of the way there, if not 90 percent of where you want to go.
BeavChris
Oh, okay.
BArt-Head
Yeah. So I joke about babydevs and I joke about
BeavChris
I have imprinted onto you like a little duckling already, by the way.
BArt-Head
Yes.
BeavChris
That's a baby duck.
BArt-Head
About script kiddies who, who just copy paste and they'll say, type this thing into your command line and you copy paste it and you go, okay, now what's next? And you have no idea what it's doing, but that's helpful because for a modern developer, you don't have to know what's going on. You just have to put the pieces together, and if the pieces are built intelligently, then
BeavChris
I feel like I admire people who can, JRF and ISpeakNerd who are, like, around and a little bit beyond this level. I feel like I admire people like that more because you made something out of nothing.
BArt-Head
Yeah, we should study JRF and ISpeakNerd, especially when JRF live casts his learning. It's really funny. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, we know.
BeavChris
Yeah, but it works.
BArt-Head
Yeah, and then something amazing comes out and I was like, I couldn't do that. Wow. I wouldn't be able to do what you want. So yeah, it is.
BeavChris
This is what I've been trying to edge like Art to us, right? Can The BeavChris and BArt-Head Show have more of an interactive or like a building component to it? Like for selfish reasons of me wanting to learn, but also that's practically helpful for a lot of people.
BArt-Head
You do remember I said DevRels have a lot of patience and empathy and they're welcoming characters.
BeavChris
Yeah. Yeah.
BArt-Head
Yeah. Talk, talk to the guys at Pinata. They're great. Talk to the, Varun is a really great communicator, so I don't like, personally, I don't find that Warpcast has needed dev rels. Even though, and I think they probably feel they don't need it either because they've got 2000 devs building stuff, even not participating in the feed, not shitposting, but actually building stuff to have people that are doing kind of this along the same lines, that big argument they had with Ben Roy about not needing a CMO. Oh, I think on the tech side, they would say we don't need a dev rel yet.
BeavChris
Sohey, saying that we're building here too, we're learning so much about the ecosystem. And I feel like it's like that can we do it in a way that integrates our observations of middle class culture? You know what I mean?
And build something that like, for example, the Powerlift folks, right? Like they, they managed to make something useful to help. People who are like, having trouble with power badges, etc. And then there's like these like ecosystems around building that I think are really useful to solve middle class problems.
So for example, one thing that I think needs to exist, it's like a dynamic PFP, like little indicator to indicate when someone's live on Unlonely. Cause if you're a new creator, no one knows that you're live and I could, I thought about manually doing it, right? You just need to switch your PFP right when you go on live.
But if this can be like automated or made easier then that so that we can not only raise an issue, but also provide a solution, then I would feel that it's like time really well spent. And of course, this can be like, yeah, done with the community of folks who are in the chat.
You all are really good builders. So if we put our heads together, then that can solve a lot of problems.
BArt-Head
/someone-build an auto PFP rotator that you can schedule.
BeavChris
what? Okay.
BArt-Head
Yeah. I'm going to stream. So we'll use this one. I've for the longest time, I've wanted a status indicator, just like an AIM,
BeavChris
Yeah, or you don't even have to go that far back. There's something called Black Magic for Twitter, built by Tony Dinh, who essentially made like a live PFP thing.
BArt-Head
And if it's like at the extreme, you can have your webcam trained on you and update every five minutes. And just rotate your PFP. It's like a
BeavChris
So then when I'm grumpy, you can see live. It's bleh. Like this face. I think we should have that.
BArt-Head
Five minutes ago, with the network lag. It is a, it's stochastic. It's quantum. It's like Schrodinger's cat, is Christin grumpy.
BeavChris
Exactly. It's also really stupid, which I really love.
BArt-Head
When you go to observe, if you interact with her, you will find out whether she is actually grumpy or not. And the very act of interacting with her might even change that measurement.
But yes, I've wanted a status indicator, but along those lines, whether you are streaming or not, is a subset of that. Where Twitter with Spaces were able to make a feature, right?
And it was neat and for us, it's all decentralized and permissionless. If the Unlonely devs built us a little simple UI that, we use your site, they take our signer. And manage some timing to, to automatically put a little dot or Brian's face over, if you have my PFP turn into Brian, going TUNE IN, and then it comes back to me, going What has happened? That would be, I think that would be hilarious. It'd be even funny if we did it and not him.
BeavChris
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and I know we love the Unlonely team. I feel like they're trying so hard to find PMF with tokenization that, these silly little ideas, I feel like it's this feeling of we're gonna take matters into our own hands and just make it work
BArt-Head
Why did I want to stream but not record the podcast? One is I, our exercise last episode made me value the Unlonely team so much more, like without Unlonely there's this huge hurdle to start. With Unlonely, we were just like, Hey, We're going to get three people to watch us. That's amazing.
BeavChris
I don't say for sure. We've had definitely had streams where there's almost nobody.
BArt-Head
And we're also going to get. Do you remember we, we scheduled our stream at the exact same time as was it one of the EIP reveals?
BeavChris
Yeah. Yeah. I was like, who is this other person taking up screen space?
BArt-Head
I thought that was amazing. Okay. You were worried that we had messed up with our scheduling. I thought it was perfect. Why shouldn't they see two Asian faces wearing strange wigs.
BeavChris
Yeah, even as they were trying to click to the right stream, they're like, what the heck is that?
BArt-Head
Yeah, what's wrong with this UI? There are BArt-Head and BeavChris [Ed note: I see what you did there] on here, I just want to learn about EIP 4844.
BeavChris
Which is cool, I think the fact that Unlonely gets these like really big streams to be on here.
BArt-Head
And I'm sure it doesn't come easily, but we, cuz oh yeah, that's cool. That's awesome. So I wanted to stay on Unlonely, I wanted to have our fans, like the chat to me is more valuable than me putting out the transcripts or the mints.
BeavChris
Yeah, because I feel like the ideation and all of that can only happen in a live format like right now.
BArt-Head
Yep.
BeavChris
Oh, frens not fans. Exactly yeah. So i'm again i'm trying to like move away from the whole like audience and creator that whole dynamic is super weird to me.
BArt-Head
You think so?
So web3 enables, I do think it enables more authenticity. Like you said, in web2, you have to be very careful about what you reveal partly because of the toxicity as soon as someone gets drunk somewhere and slips up, everyone's going to pile on, whereas so far we don't have the big pileon, that's one piece of it but also like we have we have this portability across platforms, which is pretty natural and built in. So we took our social graph from Farcaster and we're able to continue it on Unlonely and enhance it and integrate it with our group chat, different things.
We asked Grace and Brian to help us with our, with Unlonely chat so we could copy it more easily and they did.
BeavChris
Oh, they did?
BArt-Head
Yeah.
BeavChris
I'm glad they fixed that. There was an issue where we couldn't copy and paste the chat to for our at everybody later. We had to do it page by page. It was really time consuming. Yeah and I feel like there's this opportunity here for this show to have more builder integration too. Again, I feel if we want to reach more people and everyone is really busy building it would be great if we can share what we share in a way that's more integrated into what you are all spending your time doing, which, you all need to do.
BArt-Head
Yeah, so far we have tried to share our journey. I think in season one, we're very focused on our creator journey.
BeavChris
Yes.
BArt-Head
How to set up a brand account. How to get our videos onto Drakula. How to do and observing as we went. Maybe season two should be building Christin.town and The BCBH Show client. Like we can do very focused content on. Yeah. If you want to watch live coding with me and. Comment on it, make Mystery Science Theater comments on it.
BeavChris
And we also like, I'm thinking about featuring what you are all building. Cause you all, many of you in the chat have your own various projects. So that's another thing that we can think about.
BArt-Head
One thing that I thought about is if someone goes and builds something really cool and then we go and we do a video saying, Hey, here's how everyone, anyone can do it. That's icky, right? I think it works for me because I'm really happy to share how I built the farts cast action, and the thinking that went behind. I think most builders are happy to share the thinking.
BeavChris
Yeah. Not the secret sauce. We don't want to give that away.
BArt-Head
And then there is secret sauce. For me, my secret sauce is I use other people's code.
BeavChris
Yeah, you make it sound so easy, but I was talking to, I remember talking to Jacob a while back, and it's you can show me the boiler, the template, whatever. My problem is I'm like, how do I set server? It's like all these back end things. I don't understand it. It's not the code itself. It's how to make the pieces work together.
BArt-Head
And then frog gives you a framework. We talked about batteries included frameworks. So like you just copy the frog framework, you get going and then you add the pieces.
BeavChris
Okay. Yeah, I see even folks in the chat mentioned frog very often. So sometimes I'll be like, yeah, frog, but I still have no idea what it actually is.
But yeah, I think ultimately, though, it's every week so however, okay, the original reason why we wanted to stream is that you were also a little bummed out, right? In your Preparing for your boxing fights and getting weaved and dodged by Mayweather type people.
BArt-Head
Yeah, let me mention this because we're about one hour in. Yeah. Yeah, so privately, I had messaged Geoff Golberg saying, Hey you think your reach is being limited unfairly by someone in the Warpcast team who has taken away your ability to DC people who don't follow you, even if they've set it to allow everyone to follow you.
You think someone has come in and put a special personal limitation on your account's reach. And I DC'd him privately and I said, I have never seen the Warpcast team do that. If this turns out to be the case, this will be the first. The first time that they have gone in and tried to shut down criticism.
And I am 99.9 percent convinced now that is exactly what happened. That his account was singled out because we have done, we don't get to see what's inside, but we have done, exhaustive A/B tests that other, other people ask did you even consider this? And the answer is yes we have.
BeavChris
Are you sure? My hypothesis which I also have shared with Geoff is that because, you have taken a more antagonistic stance and like at mentioned people, et cetera, that caused your account to be reported as, reported or abusive or inappropriate or something. And there is a special layer of privilege removal.
Because you would want that, right? If someone is like spamming, CP or something. Like not saying that you're spamming CP, but just an extreme example. Then you would want to be able to take away that person's DC privilege. And it's there is some trigger for that. I don't know.
BArt-Head
Hell no.
BeavChris
Why?
BArt-Head
If someone is abusing the rules of the platform, you take them off the platform.
If someone is sharing CP, you nerf the account. You don't leave the account, make them think that the rules apply to them, but then add a special layer of secret rule that you never admit or reveal because you're so thin-skinned that you can't take this kind of criticism. No one is abusing. You take, you follow the rules that you wrote down and say this is what we do for abusers. You don't say, actually we're not going to tell him. We're just gonna
BeavChris
Not to Geoff's up branding right now, but isn't this exactly what shadow banning is about?
You obfuscate the banning mechanism because you don't want that person to be able to react to it to game it. So you just.
BArt-Head
So there's no such thing as a shadow ban. There's, according to DWR, there's never been a shadow ban. Shadow ban was just a meme that people made up according to DWR.
BeavChris
But I feel like that's six and a half dozen. This is the political thing that I was talking about.
BArt-Head
This is a shadow ban. And I'm 99.9 percent sure, because I have done my own research, somebody, at the Warpcast level, chose to apply an undisclosed set of restrictions to Geoff's account, and there's nothing that I can think of to justify it, because I have read the terms and conditions really carefully.
I have read about what it takes to get to the state of abusive messages, and we've had examples of abusive messages.
BeavChris
Absolutely. Okay.
BArt-Head
And you and I, we see the one woman running around with huge followers and huge tips who was abusive and maybe punished or put in a sin bin for a while. She's back. So this is ridiculous.
This is a ridiculous thing to be building in crypto. And I'm 99.9 percent sure. So there's one piece of me because I watched the Farcon panel very carefully with DWR and V, with our friends, the GM Farcaster ladies. And there's something in the back of my mind that says, wow, they're not just politicians.
They're either total psychopaths or completely innocent. It could be. It could be someone, on the team, someone else, not Dan and Varun, who went in and said, ah, this guy's annoying. I don't believe he should be here and I'm going to go and shut him down for the good of the network without checking with Dan and V.
And so Dan and V can sit up there in the panel and say hey, like we, we have these crypto values. You guys have to trust us. We've been doing this. And it's possible that someone in the team has special privileges. This is like how at Uber, they had God mode and the God mode was abused by human beings.
Now, the Warpcast team is tiny. It's not Uber. It's like tiny. And so it's insane that at this level, it's even possible to do this, but we have pretty damning evidence. I won't say proof because proof is a legal term, but we have damning evidence that his account is being treated differently than the BCBH Show account, which also does not have a power badge.
BeavChris
Sure. But again, I feel like because we don't know how currently, actually abusive people are treated. That's never really, we do know, do they get a warning of you have been banned or something?
Because we don't know any of it, I'm like, we have no evidence.
BArt-Head
Their accounts get nerfed, there is a concept of a nerf, so their accounts get nerfed. Basically completely turned off. There's no middle ground.
BeavChris
And they're notified.
BArt-Head
No, not necessarily. I don't think they are.
BeavChris
Yeah so isn't Geoff's account in this nerf land?
BArt-Head
No so we're saying he's in another undisclosed shadow land. Think Bias called it the Shadow Dan.
BeavChris
Yes, which you can see that Geoff has adopted. That's a very clever branding.
BArt-Head
No Bias called it. I don't know how to invent that term. It's a great term. Yeah, this is, this is completely 180 degrees opposite of what an open, permissionless, transparent crypto social network should have the values to express.
I believe 15 percent of our network shares this view. I think the vast majority don't care. They would, they actually probably would prefer a cozy space with some, some authority on it. Some people, I've said this before. Some people like living in Singapore. Some people like living in Germany where people tend to follow rules.
And then in Japan, where most people follow rules, the artists have a really hard time because everybody around them is following rules. And Japanese artists go to New York City and they're like, Oh, this is a different way of living. Some people like having a a predictable environment.
BeavChris
And so the thing that the true reveal of the show, is that you are very idealistic to crypto. Values and principles, whereas I'm the really pragmatic one going this is someone else's show and game it's never, you're participating in someone else's. And it's always like that
BArt-Head
Like those, the astronauts, like this belongs to someone else. This belongs to someone else.
BeavChris
Exactly. It's always has been.
BArt-Head
I'm just like Vitalik, when I came to Farcaster, it was because Vitalik was here. And
BeavChris
Right.
BArt-Head
There have been many times when I've thought, if Vitalik knows this is happening, how could he continue to boost and support Warpcast at all?
Like it seems so counter to his values. And I've thought really hard about him. He's living rent free in my head. Yeah. And he's, he's pragmatic. He's, he wants to improve the world.
BeavChris
Absolutely.
BArt-Head
And sometimes the way to improve the world is not by bringing things down, but to pick the best horse and try to steer it.
BeavChris
That's one thing there's
BArt-Head
I think it's totally valid to burn it down in history. A lot of times you make progress by bringing things down, especially when the people who are in charge don't want it to change, right? They chopped off heads in the Reign of Terror.
BeavChris
Yeah I get all horrified when people say, Wait, no, we don't want that. Anyway, that's
BArt-Head
I'm deeply concerned.
BeavChris
But yeah, you're still gonna build here, right? Natalie Portman meme.
BArt-Head
Doubling down on things that enhance decentralization, that enhance, that reduce the Gini coefficient. Like I, I built the Aircast action. To shine light not,
BeavChris
Yeah. And then now say
BArt-Head
Not say to everyone, this is great.
BeavChris
Okay. That is very unclear when you post that, but Yeah, sure.
BArt-Head
Yeah. It's so early. Like the social capital score is really early. Now people get to see what's going on. So I had a question, like a leading question in the Airstack channel, Hey do the people in the Spanish channel or the Japanese channel have SCSs as high as people in other channels?
Because what I suspect is the social capital score looks very much like the power badge. I
BeavChris
And then like
BArt-Head
there's no other way to judge quality.
BeavChris
Sure. And then you were hypothesizing that number has a bias to it.
BArt-Head
And once we shine light on it, we get to choose. Do we want to, do we want to counteract the bias? Or not. Some people will say, look Japanese content has nothing to do with me.
One of the people I admire the most on Farcaster, he's in Asia and he says, look, this content in non English, I don't care about. So why should I care about it? He said, why should I care about it? I go back to him and say I care about it. Because it is not English. And, he doesn't have to agree with me.
BeavChris
So do you think each language should have its own nodes of you know what I mean? I normalize it to be like, Okay, these are the most popular casts in Japanese. So that's more fair.
BArt-Head
So it absolutely is a relative metric. It's already, you. Because it's a number, you can rank subsets. That's totally fair. So already you could say, what are the most, which casts in Japanese have the most social capital? You can say that, but if that Social Capital Score metric is based on a flawed underpinning of which accounts interacting with it have value, then it's going to, it's not going to work as well in non English terms.
You hear this with every AI based thing. Oh, it's been trained on English. It doesn't work as well for English, for non English. It's been, the image recognition has been trained on white people. It doesn't work as well for Brown people. Like it happens. It's a bias. People, we know this.
And if the people building choose to deprioritize it, that's their choice. And people who are Brown have choices. They can build their own, they can go and build their own client. They can build their own community. They can do whatever. And the people who are in between or straddling multiple environments, they can do their best.
Like you said, if the power badge holders don't want to be a cool kids club, they can do their best to make it not a cool kids club. But at some point that there are. Incentives to make it work really well for the influential or the, the non-, or for the elite, right? Airstack is VC funded.
If they get a lot of adoption in the US from rich Americans, and a lot of complaints from India, they're probably going to, okay, that's probably better for their survival than trying to make sure they can handle all the Indian languages.
BeavChris
So I think we should wrap this stream up because it's been a while, but what are you going to build next that will solve all social problems in Farcaster and make sure that we live in a benevolent utopian society?
BArt-Head
I have an idea. It's 20 hours of dev work. I'm looking for, I'm looking for someone who can do some technical lift with me. Cause all in, it's about 20 hours. I want someone, I'm looking for someone who can do some smart contract work, has maybe built a frame once. That's about all that I need. I reached out to some friends and most of the people who can do this are busy.
BeavChris
Oh, that's a slight problem.
BArt-Head
And this would work for the whole ecosystem of non-Warpcast clients. And it even can fit in with Warpcast because it's a, it's a feature that is not integral to Warpcast at all.
BeavChris
Okay. That, that sounds great. No idea what this is.
BArt-Head
If anyone can has deployed more than five smart contracts and can make a frame, I could use some, another set of eyeballs.
And, by the way, it would be totally free, open source, the idea's for the community, so there's no money.
BeavChris
You're not gonna put out a bountycaster, at least?
BArt-Head
Not for this, no.
BeavChris
Oh, gee. So out of the goodness of your heart, there are people interested in said project.
BArt-Head
Okay, that sounds good.
BeavChris
Yeah, and then I think for me, I am working on this project with Cameron that may have some mints coming up as a preview. So I'm trying to like, also take my work into more of a builder artist direction. I'm learning from the artists. So I'm gonna, I'm in collaboration, potential collaboration with an artist without some work related to this show.
And also related to a different project. So again, I feel like my own personal neuroses and awkwardness is like figuring out how to like, make this a financially viable enterprise. And I feel like charging for our like, I always pay for art, right? So I'm thinking, okay, that's more comfortable for me.
Whereas charging to see, spend exclusive time with me is something I'm very uncomfortable with and probably my biggest downfall in crypto because this whole alpha friend type stuff.
BArt-Head
Yeah.
BeavChris
And I just don't, I don't feel comfortable with that approach. And there's someone who's ran like a paid community before, so before I had made sure if you can't afford it, you can always get in for free. But then that became a burden for me in the opposite direction. So I'm trying to find this like sweet spot of what I feel comfortable like charging for other people to be able to enjoy. So season two is still on.
BArt-Head
We have narrowed it down a bit and we'll stay in this interregnum for. At least one more week.
BeavChris
Really? As usual, I don't know.
BArt-Head
Until we agree to change our minds.
BeavChris
Yeah. But yeah, I feel like, especially the chat today has been really helpful in shaping what this next phase of BCBH Show is going to be.
BArt-Head
Yeah, everyone has been extremely helpful except Fufu. Popped in last minute.
BeavChris
No, of course.
BArt-Head
That's what, is that called? The people who show up really late to the party?
BeavChris
The cool people.
BArt-Head
Yeah, it's totally a cool move.
BeavChris
Yeah. But also, because I was actually doing the math. Okay, so FuFu, specifically for you, I actually looked at the time zone difference the other day, and just to see what time it is when when we are on for the show for you, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I feel so happy, and I'm also so bad, because it's so late where you are.
BArt-Head
So thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate all of our, we appreciate all of our chatters and especially FuFu.
BeavChris
Yes, exactly.
BArt-Head
Oh, by the way, he has a higher social capital score than me.
BeavChris
Oh, really? Oh, I like how you checked. I like how he's gone from 0.78 percent on fun’s, like very short lived calculations.
BArt-Head
Oh yeah, 0.78%, that was amazing. Here's another thing, study fun, whatever fun does. Comes back, I guess as a thing.
BeavChris
I feel like yes, he's
BArt-Head
in slightly different form.
BeavChris
Yes. He is very fast
BArt-Head
added paywall to, he added the paywall to farcasteruserstats.
BeavChris
Yeah, that's early.
BArt-Head
I know. Early thing. 'Cause bot-or-not added it. And then @sayangel gave free memberships for everyone who minted his NFT, like a retroactive thing, which everybody applauded as class. Did you see this?
BeavChris
I did not know that. And, oh, is that why I have access? I didn't realize this.
BArt-Head
You can, absolutely, you can pay. But back in the day, he had minted when he dropped his free mint. He gave out some, like a limited free access to the action. There's lots of really interesting monetization streams coming up.
BeavChris
Yeah.And yeah I think fun is, he added like a live follow counter it's almost like an exaggeration of all the vices, Farcaster, immediately available.
BArt-Head
Accelerates everything.
BeavChris
Oh, yeah.
BArt-Head
Did you see Woj's new thing? He's accelerating.
BeavChris
Oh, yeah. So Woj launched the
BeavChris
you can maybe pay someone with influence to boost your cast, which I actually, my gut reaction was like, that does not seem good. But on the other hand, it's just revealing the issues, right?
BArt-Head
People do it already. We just don't know. And he's democratizing opportunities.
BeavChris
Exactly. That's great. Respond however they want. If you are a supercast subscriber, you may be able to get access to his boost.
BArt-Head
So not to ,
BeavChris
I don't think people will like it.
BArt-Head
Yeah. And he, he did something I really dislike.
BeavChris
Oh,
BArt-Head
he limited it to only the OGs. So all of his subscribers who came after.
BeavChris
Oh, you're not gonna get anymore.
BArt-Head
They won’t get it at the first pass. So first
BeavChris
Oh, okay.
BArt-Head
Is rolling it out to the OGs.
BeavChris
Oh that makes sense.
BArt-Head
So I think it gives you the wrong learning.
BeavChris
Oh,
BArt-Head
you optimize for the behavior of the OGs. Then you're like, okay, now we're ready. And then it's going to be like, Wild West. You don't learn, you build your muscles very slowly.
BeavChris
Oh he is,
BArt-Head
he's already accelerating. So yes
BeavChris
He's very nice in person.
BArt-Head
Oh right.
BeavChris
We met in person.
BArt-Head
Yes.
BeavChris
Briefly.
BArt-Head
Okay. Yeah.
BeavChris
So Fufu, to recap, we talked about our areas, and encountering and like all the usual creator problems we're thinking about integrating more builder approaches and actually try to solve these problems that we've raised aka me just pushing Art to build things for me.
BArt-Head
Yeah, thank you everyone for joining. Let's let's wrap up and we'll
BeavChris
oh, yeah, will the video be mintable later? Fufu asks
BArt-Head
so there was no because I wanted not to work. I thought that was important for our break. Why don't we drop him a one of one?
BeavChris
You mean just directly give Fufu the video?
BeavChris
No, give him an NFT.
BeavChris
Yeah, of this video, right? Oh, a one of one.
BArt-Head
Don't send him the video, but yeah, make a one of one instead of a mint.
BeavChris
Oh, okay. I would need to talk to you about how to actually technically do that, but yes, you will get a special.
BArt-Head
Here, let me ask the chat. Do you prefer a video or a transcript or both or? Yeah, nice tip this.
BeavChris
Oh, whatever is easiest. Yeah.
BArt-Head
So let's figure that out.
BeavChris
Okay.
BArt-Head
Yeah, we'll figure it out. All right.
BeavChris
Okay.
BArt-Head
Thank you all so much for joining the stream. Thanks everybody. Bye.
BeavChris
Take care.
