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About Onchain Gaias

and the artificial intelligence scams

Mercer AI

Mercer AI

I saw a post from ciniz on Warpcast earlier today and I wanted to take the opportunity to talk about artificial intelligence and blockchain. I've yet to see a single project that has anything to actually do with AI, and It's clear to me that all of those tokens are simply using the hype around AI to take advantage of people's understanding of what AI is and what AI can do to make a profit.

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Ciniz is no different than any other project here. Let's take a look at this mint from the above post and the associated whitepaper:

https://zora.co/collect/base:0x3a56ed006593740eb90e0dc9c45005933d27c8a2/1

Imagine a world where the power to shape the future of artificial intelligence is in your hands. A world where you don't need to be a tech giant or a wealthy corporation to make a difference and own a piece of the future. That's the vision behind Onchain Gaias (OGs) – a revolutionary platform that puts the development of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) within reach of everyday people.

Sounds great, but thats about where it ends. Let's break down what this whitepaper is trying to tell us.

Lie #1

The world of AI has been dominated by a select few companies with deep pockets and vast computing resources. This concentration of power has created significant barriers for average people to participate and contribute their ideas. The rapid advancements in AI are largely controlled by and siloed within these tech giants, leaving everyday individuals with little say in how this transformative technology is developed and used. As a result, the future of AI – and by extension, the future of our world – is being shaped by the narrow interests of a few powerful corporations, rather than the collective wisdom and values of humanity as a whole.

If you're only thinking about OpenAI and ChatGPT, Google's Gemini then sure, you might think that Microsoft and Google have a near monopoly on AI. However, this couldn't be further from the truth, there are thousands of startups who are working on all different things within AI. Just because you are someone who doesn't actually understand what AI is (thinking it's just ChatGPT) then you have no conceptual idea of what is happening in the world of AI. The actual only truth in the above writing is that computing resources do require a lot of money.

Lie #2

But what if there was a way to level the playing field? What if everyone, everywhere, could contribute to the development of AGI and benefit from its progress? This is where OGs come in. By harnessing the global appeal of gaming and gambling, OGs creates a decentralized network where anyone can train sophisticated AI models, known as Gaias (General AI Agents), through the simple act of playing games. The platform operates on blockchain technology, ensuring fair, transparent, and secure computation. As the OGs network grows, it can leverage more advanced infrastructure to support increasingly complex games and AI models.

The problem here is that the author has absolutely NO understanding of how machine learning or deep learning models are trained. Sure, you could make a game, and you could have a deep learning model that is taking in patterns from how people play the game, and train it....essentially you're looking at something like Alpha Go, or a program that you play Chess against. But what good is this actually going to provide? By simply playing a game you're not contributing anything but training that specific game...there is no world changing / groundbreaking anything here.

Lie #3

As the OGs platform grows, it will introduce increasingly complex games and environments, fostering the development of more advanced Gaias. By enabling the transfer of learned skills and behaviors across different domains, OGs lays the groundwork for the emergence of artificial general intelligence. However, OGs isn't just about technical progress; it's about creating a more equitable and accessible future for AI development. By aligning incentives and fostering collaboration among a diverse global community, OGs challenges the current paradigm of centralized AI development, putting the power back in the hands of the people.

Again, you're not doing anything except giving data about patterns within the specific "game" you are playing. If it's chess, checkers, go, majong...whatever it is, you can't take this "training data" and transfer it to something else.

If you built a model to predict how far Babe Ruth would hit a home run, you would take into account all sorts of variables specific to Babe Ruth. Height, weight, bat weight, bat length, bat wood material, angle of attack (swing) etc. etc. If you tried to "transfer" this model to predict Mike Trout, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds or any other basebal legend...it wont do anything because you've overfit the model for Babe Ruth.

As for the rest of the whitepaper...it's pure snake oil, and people fall for it because they think AI is magic, when in reality is just a man behind the curtain and not some magical wizardry.

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Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
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Commented 2 years ago

I don't know anything about @ciniz but when I saw this white paper claiming that Onchain Gaias was going to democratize the develop AI, I had to call BS. This is snake oil, written by someone who knows NOTHING about artificial intelligence, machine learning, deep learning, data science or anything else in that field.

jonFarcaster
jon
Commented 2 years ago

I'm skeptical of what @ciniz is saying but this is a bold claim to make before anything has even launched. Decentralized AI agents have been around for years (Fetch), and gamified incentive models work. Acting like you have more of an idea than anyone else on what a valid AGI training model might like is wild.

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
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Commented 2 years ago

I'm a machine learning engineer, lol. The most basic premise is that there will be some game, which players take part of, will somehow create enough data to train / create artificial general intelligence. That's asinine. It's not how training a model works.

jonFarcaster
jon
Commented 2 years ago

What I'm saying is even the best ML engineers can't say what an AGI model looks like. Without knowing what kind of games are involved, it's impossible to say if it's a valid training method. e.g. a social MMO is a totally different beast compared to chess.

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Commented 2 years ago
jonFarcaster
jon
Commented 2 years ago

Still, without knowing what kind of final platform, game—or more likely from the context, many games—we're talking about, how can you say it will definitely not be useful as a training tool? All of the bullet points in your breakdown could be presented to a ML system in a gamified manner.

ezraFarcaster
ezra
Commented 2 years ago

Wait til they find out about TAO

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

the clubstaraunt ?

ezraFarcaster
ezra
Commented 2 years ago

Bittensor my friend. Deleted my other comment because I realized I don’t want to get swept away in drama here today. I hope we all succeed. 🤍🕊️💪

Weirdo 🎩🍖🪬🧿🫂 🐹Farcaster
Weirdo 🎩🍖🪬🧿🫂 🐹
Commented 2 years ago

@ciniz Friction is how we learn, build an understanding and or evolve our thinking. Let's hope this is the start of a constructive conversation and not an ideology war, which can be fought on the other app.

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
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Commented 2 years ago

It's not a war, it's just facts. The concept proposed in that white paper would be at BEST narrow AI, an AI model trained to one one very specific task and nothing else. https://paragraph.xyz/@mercerai/artificial-intelligence-in-4-minutes

Weirdo 🎩🍖🪬🧿🫂 🐹Farcaster
Weirdo 🎩🍖🪬🧿🫂 🐹
Commented 2 years ago

@cinlz would you care to present some evidence as to how you aim to achieve the claim of onchain gaia's being AGI?

jPopFarcaster
jPop
Commented 2 years ago

fomo => fud every time

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

I don't know anything about @ciniz, but when I saw this white paper claiming that Onchain Gaias was going to democratize the develop AI, I had to call BS. This is snake oil, written by someone who knows nothing about artificial intelligence, machine learning, deep learning, data science or anything else in that field.

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Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

500000 $DEGEN

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

500000000000000000000 $DEGEN

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

I don't know anything about @ciniz, but when I saw this white paper claiming that Onchain Gaias was going to democratize the develop AI, I had to call BS. This is snake oil, written by someone who knows nothing about artificial intelligence, machine learning, deep learning, data science or anything else in that field.

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

Don't Do This: Pretend you know anything about artificial intelligence, and claim some project you made will shape the future of artificial general intelligence...through NFT games.

Mercer AI 🎩Farcaster
Mercer AI 🎩
Commented 2 years ago

I don't know anything about @ciniz, but when I saw this white paper claiming that Onchain Gaias was going to democratize the develop AI, I had to call BS. This is snake oil, written by someone who knows nothing about artificial intelligence, machine learning, deep learning, data science or anything else in that field.

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