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Protocols That Were Temporarily Companies

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I had an insight recently — Farcaster is not a random application layer outlier. It is the trailblazer in a category of “protocols that will replace companies” (need a better name for this). 

Jack Dorsey’s original vision for Twitter (Twitter JV if you will) was for it to be a protocol. Unfortunately, the tools weren’t available at the time to realize this, so it ended up at the local maxima of what was possible — a successful company.

This isn’t a new concept and projects before Farcaster have tried this. Crypto oldheads will remember Steemit and DLive, which were trying to be decentralized versions of Reddit and Twitch, respectively. However, it was too early back then to build these apps because the infra layer was so immature. The plumbing hadn’t hardened enough to allow these products to cross the chasm.

Now, the infra is more ready than ever and the time is right to try again. Much like Webvan walked so Instacart could run, we’ll play back the same pattern from web2 in web3.

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I wonder what Dan Larimer thinks about Solana and Farcaster

That said, not all the infrastructure is built out yet, which is why Farcaster and the Merkle team have a challenging lift ahead of them. They have already had to come up with off-chain architectures like Hubs because onchain storage isn’t ready yet. They also need to consider deeply where they will host key primitives like the identity system, as choosing the wrong base layer could be a death knell.

But they will blaze many of the trails for protocols to come and will also pioneer many of the picks and shovels, as will adjacent companies like Hypersub. Together they’ll give us a robust set of primitives like a social graph, auth, subscription gating, etc.

What this means hopefully is that we are about to see a wave of new protocols that were temporarily companies — eg. YouTube, Shopify, LinkedIn, etc. Each will have their own set of challenges that are unique to the specific vertical they choose. I suspect the best projects will be judicious with their early designs, and not try to decentralize too much. They’ll pick conservative architectures that allow flexibility to progressively decentralize in the future, but offer enough of a value prop to win users now.

The benefit of launching now is that the crypto-native audience or onchain userbase is large enough to build a real business. There is a thriving segment of users that want to pay with crypto and care about the ideological values of protocols over companies. This is a moat! Centralized companies (YouTube et al) cannot adopt crypto-native features the way they can adopt AI features because crypto is still brand-unsafe and kludgy. Normal audiences will be repulsed, and they cannot sacrifice their existing user base for a much smaller TAM. But new projects, lacking that baggage, can build the best product for crypto-natives.

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Imagine this dude pitching you YouTube Brypto

This is very exciting to me as I’ve long been tired of seeing this industry launch yet another blockchain. It’s app szn and the time has come to begin transmuting essential digital services that are currently companies into their final and best form — protocols.

Reid DeRamusFarcaster
Reid DeRamus
Commented 10 months ago

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Reid DeRamusFarcaster
Reid DeRamus
Commented 10 months ago

@mazmhussain shares his unexpected journey into using Farcaster and his early reflections. Initially skeptical, he quickly grew to appreciate Farcaster's community, ease of use, and the financial rewards from participating, ultimately finding it a refreshing alternative to "the informational chaos that Twitter has devolved into today". https://paragraph.xyz/@unmediatedthoughts/a-view-from-farcaster-afield

Reid DeRamusFarcaster
Reid DeRamus
Commented 10 months ago

@ted writes a love letter for handwritten letters. She shares her experience stumbling across a treasure chest of 400 handwritten letters on the internet, then her journey through her own 400 letter project. "When I was sixteen, I was in love with reading. Reading always inspired me to write — pen to paper — and writing always inspired me to love." https://paragraph.xyz/@ted/love-letters

Reid DeRamusFarcaster
Reid DeRamus
Commented 10 months ago

@miawintam writes about a goldfish pond that formed under a leaky fire hydrant in Bed-Stuy. The pond has become an indispensable, vibrant community gathering point, serving as an example of the emergent urbanism needed to adapt in dynamic, complex urban environments. https://paragraph.xyz/@miawintam.eth/bed-stuy-acquarium-emergent-urbanism

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 10 months ago

Polymarket is cool because it has enough utility that people who don’t care about crypto still use it People who hate crypto won’t use products like PM, but you shouldn’t worry about convincing them - it’s ideological and no product change outside of removing crypto can convince them Focus on the crypto indifferent

basedFarcaster
based
Commented 10 months ago

based is indifferent

kevin jFarcaster
kevin j
Commented 10 months ago

have you placed a bet yet? or do you primarily use it as a source of entertainment/media/news

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 10 months ago

Of course not, I comply completely with the CFTC order and would never use a VPN to bypass any geofences

kevin jFarcaster
kevin j
Commented 10 months ago

of course, likewise. i don't even know what a VPN is, some kind of newfangled tiki taki dance? sounds unamerican!

MaretusFarcaster
Maretus
Commented 10 months ago

That's where I think Farcaster has a real opportunity. With people who are crypto-indifferent. The experience here is maturing and I think in a lot of ways, it demonstrates the utility of crypto and crypto-adjacent technology better than most other crypto projects out there.

EulerLagrangodamusFarcaster
EulerLagrangodamus
Commented 10 months ago

@ted made a good point once. I never hear people talk about what chain Polymarket is on.

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 10 months ago

We do not talk about Polygon in this household

EulerLagrangodamusFarcaster
EulerLagrangodamus
Commented 10 months ago

https://payy.link We need someone to bring gasless UTXO payments to Op/Base

↑langchain 🎩 Farcaster
↑langchain 🎩
Commented 10 months ago

What can we build next like this sir

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 10 months ago
↑langchain 🎩 Farcaster
↑langchain 🎩
Commented 10 months ago

Ah this is pretty interesting and fitting with another thought I've been having around enterprise SaaS. I actually think "software eating the world" is ngmi in a long enough time horizon. The value is probably in the protocol/network - not in the bespoke software.

GoldyFarcaster
Goldy
Commented 10 months ago

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 10 months ago

LGHTFarcaster
LGHT
Commented 10 months ago

"for innovation, pursue indifference"

ArbitrumFarcaster
Arbitrum
Commented 10 months ago

create things that people like good mantra to live by

ApurvFarcaster
Apurv
Commented 10 months ago

another way to look at the space is a lot of it will get more backend hence abstracted. and hence you'd have centralised apps co existing with decentralised more crypto native alternatives. Over time, even the ones who hate crypto would shift to the decentralised versions simply because they'd be better at delivering value than the centralised ones ( due to permisionlessness, more fair market behaviour etc.)

Lex ⏩Farcaster
Lex ⏩
Commented 10 months ago

Love using PM, are there any stats on non crypto users? Eg direct fiat on ramps?

ThibauldFarcaster
Thibauld
Commented 1 year ago

Great post by @androidsixteen.eth: The infrastructure is here, it's that time of the cycle where we can build great apps that weren't possible before! Couldn't agree more 💯 https://paragraph.xyz/@androidsixteen/protocols-that-were-temporarily-companies?referrer=0xfecbbfec931a06c0cf7b008cf3c013457f610a22

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

Just made my 2nd FC ecosystem angel investment I have a surprising amount of conviction in this ecosystem. It's easy to miss from the outside, but if you spend time and engage earnestly, there are so many opportunities to create, invest, and make friends Grateful to be here, and to be backing incredible founders!

wakeFarcaster
wake
Commented 1 year ago

not surprised at all. this place rocks.

AdamFarcaster
Adam
Commented 1 year ago

Are you able to share any information? Would love to know what visions you have enough confidence in to write a cheque to

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

Will hold off on sharing publicly for now, but this article basically shares the thesis that led to this investment: https://paragraph.xyz/@androidsixteen/protocols-that-were-temporarily-companies

GarrettFarcaster
Garrett
Commented 1 year ago

onward and upward ↑

McBainFarcaster
McBain
Commented 1 year ago

It's the new internet These are the good old days

Giuliano Giacaglia 🌲Farcaster
Giuliano Giacaglia 🌲
Commented 1 year ago

The FC ecosystem is extremely valuable! Couldn't agree more!

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

Farcaster is a trailblazer in the category of "protocols that were temporarily companies" In the same way that FC builds the final form of Twitter/Reddit, other projects will do the same to YouTube, Shopify, etc. Read more: https://paragraph.xyz/@androidsixteen/protocols-that-were-temporarily-companies

dycpFarcaster
dycp
Commented 1 year ago

its clickin for me i think ⛓️🤝⛓️

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

love to see it!

agustiFarcaster
agusti
Commented 1 year ago

big hopes on cassie's quilbrium enabling this protocol-app explosion

tomuFarcaster
tomu
Commented 1 year ago

it's app on protocol szn

:grin:Farcaster
:grin:
Commented 1 year ago

once someone solves storage, lbry v2 will become compelling

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

100% Storage is one of the foundational infra layers that I'm waiting for somebody to crack, rather than building yet another compute L1

McBainFarcaster
McBain
Commented 1 year ago

boscolo.ethFarcaster
boscolo.eth
Commented 1 year ago

Great read! How does email/gmail fit into your thinking?

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

Interesting question - SMTP is already protocolized, but it did end up with client capture I'm hopeful that at some point we'll crack address <> address comms and wallet software could eat messaging as well. That would automatically enshrine some level of portability on client side

boscolo.ethFarcaster
boscolo.eth
Commented 1 year ago

That sounds like a 🌶️ take. I'd amend it a little to: I think it will be FID <> FID comms, wallets will dissolve into the clients and OS. Also, if spam is addressed in the protocols layer, we'll see less client capture.

YES2Crypto 🎩 🟪🟡Farcaster
YES2Crypto 🎩 🟪🟡
Commented 1 year ago

Protocol-me-maybe

Giuliano Giacaglia 🌲Farcaster
Giuliano Giacaglia 🌲
Commented 1 year ago

It’s app szn!

ʞɔɐſFarcaster
ʞɔɐſ
Commented 1 year ago

I propose that we call them “protocompanies” This was worth the read!

androidsixteenFarcaster
androidsixteen
Commented 1 year ago

or were they proto-protocols? :)

ʞɔɐſFarcaster
ʞɔɐſ
Commented 1 year ago

i like this better

Protocols That Were Temporarily Companies