Update: Degen Tips FAQ V7 (May 2024)

Ryan J. Shaw

Ryan J. Shaw

What's New

  • Airdrop 2 Season 4 has kicked off as of 30 April 2024 UTC time, and will presumably end 30 May

  • The link to the latest complete FAQ will always stay the same, but I will post these individual updates to help you navigate what changed more easily. Subscribers will receive an email when new changes are published.

  • The tip allowance curve has changed, benefiting older and larger accounts

  • Only reactions to casts that were casted at most 8 days ago will now be considered

  • Daily tip allowance is now capped at 5 million DEGEN across all eligible donors

  • Specially guaranteed tips for perl, paybot, casterbites, ethXY have been eliminated - all users now have the same tip allowance rules apply to them

  • Expanded the section explaining Median Reactions with additional detail

  • Added a section about the impact of Storage on your allowance (TL;DR it's critical)

  • Added useful links (see the full FAQ for the links):

    • @ds8's Degen frame & cast actions

    • Farmarket: if you're looking for an old account to get that 3x multiplier boost

    • Degen airdrop analysis: all the airdrop stats you need

    • Degen tips data status: tells you whether the Dune data is up-to-date or not

Tip Allowance Changes

  • The curve has changed. Accounts with a 2x (22 days) and 3x (307 days) retroactive boost and more reactions benefit the most from this change. In this image, the green line is the season 4 curve, and the dotted red line is the season 3 curve.

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  • Tip allowances are now scaled down from this curve, such that the total tip allowance across all users is limited to 5 million DEGEN per day.

  • Only reactions to casts that were cast at most 8 days ago will now be considered, and the date of the cast is used to build the median reactions data. Previously, the rule was any reaction made in the past 8 days would count, and the reaction date was used to build the median reactions data.

  • This rule change is potentially problematic in light of the newly implemented tip scaling, because the historical tip allowances can now "change" as new reactions come in for older casts:

    • When one user's allowance increases, because of the new 5 million daily cap rule, the allowance of other users must go down. Since the allowances snapshot is captured once at the end of the month, this means tips that were valid on the day could retroactively end up being invalid. That being said, the tipping logic also includes a 50% safety margin, so perhaps this may not be a problem.

    • Credit to llamatron.eth for discovering the above.

ElliiFarcaster
Ellii
Commented 1 year ago

Here is an interesting article by @rjs https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update It's mostly due to Farcaster's choices to favor big accounts, and let's be honest, big engagement farming accounts

ARTJEDI1 🧲💫🚀Farcaster
ARTJEDI1 🧲💫🚀
Commented 1 year ago

that’s sad! very unlikely to invite my network here at this rate

ElliiFarcaster
Ellii
Commented 1 year ago

Yep, extremely disappointing, and the response of most of big farcaster related accounts is " go make money on altafrens" 🤷‍♂️

ARTJEDI1 🧲💫🚀Farcaster
ARTJEDI1 🧲💫🚀
Commented 1 year ago

i bookmarked this from @benroy whenever i think of criticising what’s happening … so going gentle ha ha fact remains - it’s a socialfi app not necessarily meant for artists but using art and artists as the rest of web3 so far for quote unquote gentrification purposes https://warpcast.com/benroy/0x362aac2f

Edward H. CarpenterFarcaster
Edward H. Carpenter
Commented 1 year ago

GM... how many people reading this have: a. Published a book with a traditional press? b. Self-published? (Amazon KDP or other ebook) c. Published an audiobook? d. Published a "literary NFT" / NFT book? Bonus Question: What excites you about publishing in Web3? Looking forward to dropping some $DEGEN on comments!

Danica SwansonFarcaster
Danica Swanson
Commented 1 year ago

a. d. For a): Haven't published a book with a traditional press as sole author, but I've done developmental editing for a nonfiction anthology and also contributed an essay to it. It was then published through a traditional press. So... sort of? For d): I've published "literary NFTs" in the form of essays.

Danica SwansonFarcaster
Danica Swanson
Commented 1 year ago

In answer to the bonus question: what excites me about publishing in web3 is the prospect that we might finally have viable ways to free the next Hemingway from flipping burgers. https://paragraph.xyz/@danicaswanson/writers-web3-and-earning-a-living/?referrer=danicaswanson.eth

Edward H. CarpenterFarcaster
Edward H. Carpenter
Commented 1 year ago

Congratulations on getting an essay in an anthology! Care to share the title? Also, how do you find Paragraph to be in terms of audience/income? 2 $DEGEN 🎩

Mark2Farcaster
Mark2
Commented 1 year ago

B and D and a little C for me. Recorded some chapters from my book on SoundCloud. Does that count?

Edward H. CarpenterFarcaster
Edward H. Carpenter
Commented 1 year ago

I think it counts! I've recorded audiobooks (still need to upload to Audible) and also used Murf AI to voice audiobook unlocks to one of my NFT short shories... Haven't got a SoundCloud yet - do you find it is either good for profit or audience-building? 3 $DEGEN 🎩

Mark42Farcaster
Mark42
Commented 1 year ago

b. Discovery is what excites me about web3 publishing; even though we may still be at the beginning of the premordial big bang stage, if that makes sense. Kinda like those Rocket reader days of yore when few could imagine reading fiction other than on paper.

Edward H. CarpenterFarcaster
Edward H. Carpenter
Commented 1 year ago

Great answer, Mark - and that's one of the things that excites me, too! I remember being "in" during the early days of KDP, Smashwords, etc - then having to focus on my military career for the next decade. Now, I'm able to focus on writing / publishing - and we're again at the "dawn of a new medium" 8 $DEGEN 🎩

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

The answer is here 💁🏼‍♀️ (ty @wake @marydeer on pointing to that ans @rjs on making that) didnt know we have that huge update! https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update

qabqabqabFarcaster
qabqabqab
Commented 1 year ago

I still don't understand what is happening 😭😭😭

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

What you did 8 days ago is more important than what you did yesterday (shortly speaking)

marydeer🌼🎩Farcaster
marydeer🌼🎩
Commented 1 year ago

There's a lot of smart stuff written there, very interesting. I'm losing some of the gist of it, but it's very interesting

Sander Jansen Art 🎩Farcaster
Sander Jansen Art 🎩
Commented 1 year ago

I started with 62 degen and now I'm at 31 😅

MetaMetaFarcaster
MetaMeta
Commented 1 year ago

thanks a lottt

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

So just to experiment I’ve been extremely active last 2 days, overall my casts got 300 + reactions However allowance decreased for 40 degen each day So I wonder, how’s degen allowance is working now because decreasing while doing hard work feels unusual 👁️👁️🎩

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

The answer is here 💁🏼‍♀️ (ty @wake @marydeer on pointing to that ans @rjs on making that) didnt know we have that huge update! https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update

marydeer🌼🎩Farcaster
marydeer🌼🎩
Commented 1 year ago

❤️‍🔥

wakeFarcaster
wake
Commented 1 year ago

there's no guesswork here. check /houseofdegen for rjs explainer on allowances. run your experiment for at least ten days.

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

You are awesome! Almost feeling like drawing a wake break dude 😏 thank you 69 $degen

marydeer🌼🎩Farcaster
marydeer🌼🎩
Commented 1 year ago

https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-ultimate-faq I came across this article with calculations, quite a lot of factors that affect our daily allowances.

marydeer🌼🎩Farcaster
marydeer🌼🎩
Commented 1 year ago

As I understood it is important not only the activity of our audience, but also that they should be exclusive people. Also has an influence when were our first casts (which means that we should always keep an eye on our vault) and something else, I need to honor a couple more times

Konstant FLUXFarcaster
Konstant FLUX
Commented 1 year ago

Yeah that is odd.

Big Man 🤘🏻🖤Farcaster
Big Man 🤘🏻🖤
Commented 1 year ago

Yeah I don’t fully understand it either 🤷🏻‍♂️

MetaMetaFarcaster
MetaMeta
Commented 1 year ago

owww, mine is decreasing too but i thought it was normal because my average daily reactions decrease as well 🤔

narisofkaFarcaster
narisofka
Commented 1 year ago

nope, scroll through my page and see how many reactions ive got yesterday and be surprised that allo went from 640 to 601 today hmmm

MetaMetaFarcaster
MetaMeta
Commented 1 year ago

well yeah so i really think they put some new rules in the allowance and so it decrease little by little no matter what because i checked friends allo on dune and everyone got reduced. there is probably a reason, i would love to know 😆

VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵Farcaster
VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵
Commented 1 year ago

This article explains how the boosts, scaling and the allocations work. So most of the bigger accounts have been here longer than smaller accounts, so they get better end of the stick. https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update?referrer=0xe197d8b665e202113f0fa737cfd9147a095be61c85e47fb0aa95279c265b36a1

VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵Farcaster
VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵
Commented 1 year ago

And I don’t have the article but I did read somewhere that certain channels get more “preference”, like it’s preferred to be active in those channels. Off the top of my head it was /degen /zora /founders /design /frames and others that are more builder based

VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵Farcaster
VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵
Commented 1 year ago

Ok /product /farcasther /base were others (i favourite them so I can keep track) So you should cast often, comment, like, recast and engage in those channels like crazy😂 Then you can get to a good place

VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵Farcaster
VERYMASA.⌐◨-◨ 🎩🇯🇵
Commented 1 year ago

I think the issues with us creatives is that we are not active in those channels too much… so our engagement doesn’t really count in the grand scheme of things

eiteengoFarcaster
eiteengo
Commented 1 year ago

要確認:アロワ算出変更点  多くの方にはマイナーだが,重要な変更の方もアリ 変更点 以前:反応日にカウント(全過去分も当日カウント) S2-4:8日分のCast日付に戻りカウント ※過去CastでChannelPin等がある場合.過去アロワが増減可能性

eiteengoFarcaster
eiteengo
Commented 1 year ago
makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

The new ALGO for DEGEN sucks! Rewarding the huge accounts with more and more meanwhile the blue collar artist gets the smack down. Not sure who thought this was a good idea but not only is it going to cripple interest in DEGEN its also gonna make people lose interest in Farcaster. Ill go back to hiding in the shadows

Robotandkid Farcaster
Robotandkid
Commented 1 year ago

* is that really the algorithm? I thought it was everyone got like 90% drop in allocation * so if you were a big account previously getting 10k, you're now still getting 1k... which is still a lot of DEGEN

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

Don't know since there is no official explanation, and if there is it isn't pinned or placed where a normal person would look. best we have is speculation from an unofficial source. I went from 10K to just over 200 now over 2 or 3 weeks and it keeps going down. Seems broke to me.

Robotandkid Farcaster
Robotandkid
Commented 1 year ago

Oh wow ya that is a pretty big drop. Mine dropped about 92 percent. Yours is 98!

Jean Saucisse ✒️ Farcaster
Jean Saucisse ✒️
Commented 1 year ago

This very much + it risks to add a new layer of gatekeepers.

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

I get maybe the allowance has to shrink so we aren't just printing money but I still see many with 10K allowances. Seems odd to go from 10K to 200 or below with no increase for over a week being active.

Jean Saucisse ✒️ Farcaster
Jean Saucisse ✒️
Commented 1 year ago

Yes, this + powerbadge make it feels like some of us are once again second zone citizen.

Chris Follows 🎩💎✨Farcaster
Chris Follows 🎩💎✨
Commented 1 year ago

Yea know what you mean. It opens a window I think for other community coins to take the lead .... but, I also see Farcaster/Warpcast and Degen as 2 separate things, so I wouldn't give up on the former I think

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

I havnt given up, but I def see less and less activity here over the last month. What happens on DEGEN directly effects Farcaster whether we like it or not. It's partly why the huge influx of people happened over the last couple months. The lack of excitement over the last airdrop should be telling people something.

Chris Follows 🎩💎✨Farcaster
Chris Follows 🎩💎✨
Commented 1 year ago

Yes, good point, agree

CVRSEDFarcaster
CVRSED
Commented 1 year ago

was thinking the same, everyday less and less allow and it costs a lot to maintain

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

Ive been working harder and harder over the last two weeks to increase my allowance however it constantly drops. Eventually we'll all just get sick of trying. With no official pinned casts on why or how this is happening I don't see good things to come. I love it here but with no interest it will become Bluesky quick.

CVRSEDFarcaster
CVRSED
Commented 1 year ago

feel you 🫂 got my support

PicArtFarcaster
PicArt
Commented 1 year ago

It was good, I hope you are successful

VRIBES ✍️Farcaster
VRIBES ✍️
Commented 1 year ago

Actualización: Degen Tips 🎩 * Airdrop 2 Temporada 4 inició el 30 de abril, termina el 30 de mayo. * Nueva curva de propinas favorece cuentas más antiguas y grandes. * Solo cuentan reacciones a casts emitidos hace máximo 8 días. * Límite de 5 millones DEGEN diarios para donantes elegibles. Más info @rjs 👇

Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭Farcaster
Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭
Commented 1 year ago

30 $degen

Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭Farcaster
Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭
Commented 1 year ago

Pregunta - ¿por qué baja la cantidad que puedo dar cada día?

VRIBES ✍️Farcaster
VRIBES ✍️
Commented 1 year ago

No es una ciencia exacta, pero yo tomo como referencia la posición que me asignan al ranking. Si te baja la cantidad es porque otro perfil ha recibido más asignación.

Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭Farcaster
Monica Talan 🌐 🍄🎭
Commented 1 year ago

interesante. Gracias.

Gorayii | Raicelys Gómez 🌐Farcaster
Gorayii | Raicelys Gómez 🌐
Commented 1 year ago

Gracias por compartir amigo. 10 $degen

Limonada MixFarcaster
Limonada Mix
Commented 1 year ago

Mmmm bueno veremos este mes entonces por qué entonces será una especie de beneficio clasista bueehh

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

Want to thank @littlecakes for sending me this link. It may clear up some info on DEGEN allowance for us all. Why this info isn't pinned to /degen and posted on degen.tips I do not know 🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️ https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-ultimate-faq https://warpcast.com/rjs/0x1a2de4c7

illustrata 🎩Farcaster
illustrata 🎩
Commented 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing this makeitrad!

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

You're welcome Illustrata! Seems the link attached may be an older one in this post so may make sure it matches this: https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

Seems the links in my last post brought you to older FAQs. Hope they work better this time. https://paragraph.xyz/@rjs/degen-tips-v7-update

makeitradFarcaster
makeitrad
Commented 1 year ago

@abcdj read this. I know it tough... its not in ALL CAPS but it has answers.

Update: Degen Tips FAQ V7 (May 2024)