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Such tokens - much wow

Not the curation markets we've been looking for

Connor Keenan

Connor Keenan

Memecoin degens excel at marketing and fail at curating. One might ascribe the characteristics of curation markets to memecoins - where coin creators and early backers profit from viral memes. We'll assess the game mechanics of memecoins, and why they fall short for content curation.

Bitcoin and many early altcoins were the first memecoins. Back then only a small list of them competed for attention, as launching each of these chains required a dedicated wallet plus buy-in from market makers, exchanges, and miners.

As ETH commoditized tokenization, Simon de la Rouviere explored the solution-space for curation markets. A wave of attempts to produce one followed, though none of the early ones attained traction.

In the years since Simon introduced the concept of bonding curves, Vitalik & Uniswap invented AMMs, and L1 competition has driven the cost of blockspace to zero. Pump.fun et al combined these technologies into a launchpad for rapid memecoin deployment. And the result is a more engaging social experience, as the market can adopt new memes in real-time. It has attracted a new base of users and developers. However, the excitement over this growing sector may distract from its flaws.

No intrinsic value

Memecoins lack intrinsic value. Of course they are still highly valued. BTC is the perfect example of this. Their price is simply what a market is willing to pay. Occasionally however, a memecoin can attain fundamentals by retroactively adding utility, like SHIB, FLOKI, and Safemoon have done. But such byproducts of token-first communities have yet to outperform those of venture-backed teams.

Lindy effects

Memecoins enjoy Lindy effects, with tremendous advantages to existing tokens vs upstarts. Because the coins lack fundamentals, participants will converge on schelling points. This biases the market toward coins with existing community mindshare, and results in a power law distribution of very few winners over time. It means BTC will always be the king memecoin. And while we get some long-term winners each cycle, the risk/reward of betting on a crowded market with an infinite supply of these coins is usually on the order of 1:1000 or more.

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High turnover

Because of the extreme risk, for participants to realize gains, they must be short term active traders on a 24/7 market where turnover and volatility far exceed any other retail product. In addition to the price instability, the holders must account for broader macroeconomic conditions, trends in crypto markets, and rugpull risk of young assets -- any of which are sufficient to nuke a portfolio.

Misses long tails

Memecoins not only miss the long tail of risk/reward opportunities, they miss the long tail of content, creators, and consumers.

Historically, physical good producers acted as trendsetters, and they secured the benefits as such. But online, anyone can set a new trend. Where production costs are high, like youtube or streaming services, the platform must reward the creators with rev-share or other financial agreements. But this is just recently available on primarily text based platforms, like X. And while it has generated a regular income for those with enough following, only a select few can fully capitalize on their celebrity. In any case, these initiatives have left out the curators, reward engagement-bait, and remain walled off from experimentation.

No creator benefit

Though centralized platforms found ways to pay creators, memecoin launchpads have not figured this out. New decentralized social graphs, and tooling like zk primitives and AI could help address it, but to-date, the market has not seemed to care too much providing token exposure to the OPs such as The Khao Kheow Zoo.

On tipping, fan tokens

In the last year we've seen a resurgence in tipping and fan tokens to monetize creators and bootstrap a community around a product. In either case, the longevity of their community is ultimately downstream of the willingness of its members to pay for the product, even indirectly -- such as from VC subsidies, token supply inflation, or just ads. I'd argue it is too early to tell if these products will keep their current systems of creator rewards for the long-term.

Conclusion

Regardless whether they meet the conditions for "curation markets", the market for memecoins is certainly big and alive. It may be possible to address the issues so memecoins can directly reward creators, and more accurately curate memes, and reach a broader, less risk-tolerant audience. But to me it is more likely we have yet to see the game that will.

Gökhan TurhanFarcaster
Gökhan Turhan
Commented 7 months ago

re @seneca's BTC having the best memetics, I think @connorkeenan's post on curation markets and meme economies have an aligned insight thereabouts: https://paragraph.xyz/@kingpost/memecoins-vs-curation-markets in the meantime, please do offer similar readings on the memetic mechanics of networks such as /ethereum and /solana that so I can amplify them in this channel, and yes, as long as they are not utter cheap shills, it's OK if it's an amplification post for either your brand or your own personal line of thought.

philFarcaster
phil
Commented 7 months ago

I’m torn on memecoins. They legitimately feel like a fun new social primitive. Addicting and always something new to talk about with friends. They’re also a zero sum attention vacuum. I don’t feel good when I pay attention to them. Memecoins: passing fad or glimpse of the future?

Apex777.ethFarcaster
Apex777.eth
Commented 7 months ago

It’s a casino. And casinos have been around for 100’s of years. Ain’t going anywhere.

Dan RomeroFarcaster
Dan Romero
Commented 7 months ago

Define a memecoin If they create long-term communities, then a potential new primitive for building communities. But if they are mostly built around number go up, eventually number stops going up.

SaadiqFarcaster
Saadiq
Commented 7 months ago

It’s hard to give it the benefit of the doubt. So much is driven by number go up clothed in some other narrative to make us feel less vapid about it. So sure, if they create long term communities, they are transformational. But they don’t. Definitely the exception.

tomuFarcaster
tomu
Commented 7 months ago

within every cycle we made easier for people to invest, from icos to know click a button and you create a token memecoin is a broad category, whereas most of them are just short-term noise (and money for some). i'm bullish on brands that are created around a token, and this distributes value within its network

tomuFarcaster
tomu
Commented 7 months ago

oh damn..made it*, now*

HHFarcaster
HH
Commented 7 months ago

web3 version of slotmachines.

Chris CarellaFarcaster
Chris Carella
Commented 7 months ago

In its average form it’s just a new twist on the attention economy. You can spend 100 hours of your life following the Diddy story and it’s just as vapid and costly as playing a memecoin games. In its best form it’s a new way to coordinate using crypto primitives. Worst form is a straight honeypot/rug pull, but there are scams around anything of value in this world.

CoopFarcaster
Coop
Commented 7 months ago

Why do you not feel good when you pay attention to them? Glimpse of the future is my take - every crypto cycle the hot thing gets blown way out of proportion. However - in that there are some nuggets and kernels of truth that will stick around forever

:grin:Farcaster
:grin:
Commented 7 months ago

Same. Wrote a draft post about this. Can dm it to you if you wanna read

RafiFarcaster
Rafi
Commented 7 months ago

I think we have overflow of addiction and something-new-to-talk-about these days Many memcoins try to financialize most basic form of interactions between humans by exploiting faith and hope of better future. It is inherently zero sum

Rob SanchezFarcaster
Rob Sanchez
Commented 7 months ago

i currently think about them like ico's and nfts in previous cycles, they are useful for specific use cases but are getting too much hype this cycle and won't see as much activity next cycle

Zinger ↑Farcaster
Zinger ↑
Commented 7 months ago

Tokens are fascinating and a core primitive of blockchains, huge blank canvas for creative use cases The current meta of choosing an animal, a catchy name, and clicking a button on a launchpad is toxic and will ultimately fade (as NFTs and ICOs did before) Excited for more thoughtful experiments in token design

Gökhan TurhanFarcaster
Gökhan Turhan
Commented 7 months ago

well, i take this one seriously having read @connorkeenan's first @kingpost newsletter recently: https://paragraph.xyz/@kingpost/memecoins-vs-curation-markets You can also collect the post for free (minus gas + min. creator rewards)—who knows.

Gökhan TurhanFarcaster
Gökhan Turhan
Commented 7 months ago

dear friends, and the most honorable players, and the witty voters. it's by pleasure been me whom'st happen'st to have invited thee here. please bear with the intern since, as many of you know, he is a composability risk. in the meantime, please do yourself acquainted with the memetics critique of markets by Connor Keenan for the first post of @kingpost. i suggest you follow us. https://paragraph.xyz/@kingpost/memecoins-vs-curation-markets

Such tokens - much wow